9600pro to 9800xt.....no fps change!

[nickle]

THG tests have shown that AGP 4x to 8x is a small improvement.
Your problems are certainly not in the system, RAM or card.
It is in the settings.
Same old frame rate issue.

Try modest 1152X864X16 settings.
4X FSAA and AAF.
One click down on mip etc from High Quality.
Bilinear.

App settings modest.  Don't max sliders.
24 Frame rate setting (COF).

Adjust from there.

[JBaymore]

Nickle,

Thanks for the thoughts.... but when there is AA and AAF available on the card, that hardware does it FAR better than the software stuff in the sim itself ever could.

Already at 1024x768x32 resolution...... at only 75 Hz.

If I shut AA and AF off on the card and run it in the sim instead.... the framerates drop significantly.

And as to "reducing settings"......... won't go there unless I absolutely have to.

I am still pretty appaled that the 9800XT gets this kind of terrible performance inprovement.

[Silver1SWA]

No seriously JBaymore, there is definately something wrong here and I would NOT blame that card or your decision...something is obviously fishy.

[fido]

Hey JBaymore:
I am writting to let you know you are not alone, I just built a new system that consists of an AMD Athlon 64Bit 3200+, 1 Gig of DDR, a 160Gig HDD, and a GeForce4 5900 with 128 Mb DDR. The point is I only got about 3-5 FPS increase from my old Pentium 600, 512Mb RAM, GeForce 4 440MX setup.  Hope you don't mind my butting in on your post, but if you find out anything let me know, like you it's driving me nuts.

Fido  ???  ???

[congo]

Hey Fido,

Your system is not right at all. You should be getting at least 4 times the frame rates of your old system, and probably more. Check your Bios configuration and make sure you installed the AGP driver for the mainboard.

[JBaymore]

Congo,

There are a number of people who have NOT experienced the higher framerates that one would EXPECT when compared to those which are obtained by people with lower end systems.  It is totally baffling....and seems to have everyone scratching our collective heads.

So far, no one seems to have figured out what the critical issues actually are.  So it appears that it is a combination of things that affect the performance and they are synergistic .....either for the positive....or for the negative.

I've been on this quest ever since ACOF was released.

best,

.................john

[congo]

It certainly is baffling.

I've owned 6 graphic cards in 3-4 years and always experienced a direct correlation between the relative power of the video engine and it's display performance, (ie. Frame Rates.).

This has been the case while using FS95, FS2000, FS2002, and FS2004. (as well as numerous other display dependent programs.)

There have been a couple times when performance was lousy, but the usual methods sorted it.

Unfortunately, I haven't the resources to run out and buy a $600 dollar video card, because that's what the good ones (like R 9800's and FX5900's) cost here in Australia, so, I haven't been able to test those.

[JBaymore]

Congo,

Thanks for the extensive reply.

Unfortunately...... pretty much "been there done that".

The one thing I have not yet done is start uninstalling hardware one piece at a time.  THAT is not a project that I am looking forward to.  There are no conflicts showing (in Device screens) nor errors coming up, and Dxdiag shows every test as fine.  So if there is a "conflict" it is something that does not let WinXP "know" it.


best,

..................john

[Silver1SWA]

John,

What kind of hard drives do you have, and how do you have them configured?

[fido]

Hey Guys:

I downloaded thre latest drivers from NVIDIA,(5.3.0.3) thing are better now, when I fly over Seattle my frame rates are up to 18.5 at 1024/768, this is much better than before but still less than I had hoped. I have flown out of an empty field and had frame rate jump up to 29FPS so maybe I shouldn't complain. I want to thank you all for your helpful suggestions. By the way I am still not sure if my AGP drivers are up to date because they is no seperate listing for them in on my driver disk. Should these drivers be avalible at my MOPBO's web site?

Fido

P.S. I had to use NTFS I hope I didn't screw it up, I let Windows handle it, ya , I let Windows do it, I hope that is not a bad omen.

[Silver1SWA]

That's great man.  Unfortunately this is a topic about an ATI card issue.

[JBaymore]

Silver,

I have two hard drives.....Western Digital 7600 's ......one 40 gig C drive that the Win XP home boot system is installed on, and one 120 gig E drive that holds FS2004 (and other data stuff).  (The D drive is the CD ROM / burner.)

They are formatted NTFS.  The 40 gig C drive has over half the space free.  The 120 gig E drive has 85 percent free.  Both are kept defragged.  HD controller is 82801DB Ultra ATA/IDE controller, pri and sec.

As to "reading" speed from the hard drive.... I have  "full install" of ACOF.  I also have 1 gig of RAM.  And I have tried setting the swap paging file everything from "windows managed" to massively huge.  NO change in frame rates.  I don't see excessive drive access when I am flying.


best,

.................john

[congo]

I don't know if you resolved anything yet JBaymore, but have you still got your old card?

I was thinking, maybe pop it back in and see if it still performs the same as it used to. In case something mucked up in the change over of the cards, maybe that will help sus the prob.

A stab in the dark lol.