Thanks for your reply's, I managed that alright. Im afraid that starting in safe mode had the same results, just blank and no programs running in the device manager. Ill have a search on the internet as topct suggests.
If you were to type "safe mode" (without the quotes) on a search line at Yahoo or Msn you will find all kinds of info on this
I'm afraid that thought completely by-passed me. I too find it quite annoying when people cant find out things themselves, but I now know how easy it is to completely bypass normal thought patterns!