Oh well, maybe CFS4 will be better!

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Re: Oh well, maybe CFS4 will be better!

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Thu May 20, 2004 11:46 am


Depends, Woodlouse, depends.
Have you tried the recent 1% Bf109F-4 v. Spit V?
You're in for a challenge there. ;D

I can't say I have. Will do so though. But I don't like flying 109's, they're a bit sensitive.

If I want a bit of a challenge then I fly my Tempest against a Go229.
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Re: Oh well, maybe CFS4 will be better!

Postby Akula. » Sun May 23, 2004 5:35 am

Does anybody here have any info on what CFS4 will be like? If it is WW1, i will get it. if it is Africa WW2, i will probably get it. if it is Korea, i will get it. Any ideas on what it will be about? im stumped ??? cos it could be any of the things i've mentioned.
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Re: Oh well, maybe CFS4 will be better!

Postby nickle » Sun May 23, 2004 8:23 am

The GO 229 is an easier AI target than the 109.
Reason is that all AI targets use the similar flight profiles.  There is some variation.
These profiles are best for the 109 and poor for the 229.  The jet should be using speed and vertical to gain position on the Tempest.   Instead it's profile is low altitude and moderate climbing/descending turns.  It's turn radius is large due to speed.  The Tempest is quickly on the inside of the turn and it is just a matter of the number of turns to close and get hits.  Once hit, the 229 looses its speed advantage.
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Re: Oh well, maybe CFS4 will be better!

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Sun May 23, 2004 5:39 pm

[quote]The GO 229 is an easier AI target than the 109.
Reason is that all AI targets use the similar flight profiles.
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Re: Oh well, maybe CFS4 will be better!

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Sun May 23, 2004 5:43 pm

Also, CFS4, when and if it comes will be the pacific theatre, picking up from where we left off in CFS2. So 1943 onwards. So expect B29's, nukes, and Kamikazi. ;D
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Re: Oh well, maybe CFS4 will be better!

Postby nickle » Sun May 23, 2004 6:21 pm

So I tried GO vs Tempest.
Hits on the third turn neutral start.
Kill on the fourth.
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Re: Oh well, maybe CFS4 will be better!

Postby nickle » Sun May 23, 2004 7:06 pm

Tried 3US 51 vs 3Ger 262.
Kill in two turns.
Took four for 262 to impact.
What am I doing wrong?

PS: Tempest vs GO was the shit stock stuff.
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Re: Oh well, maybe CFS4 will be better!

Postby Mathias » Mon May 24, 2004 12:20 am

Also, CFS4, when and if it comes will be the pacific theatre, picking up from where we left off in CFS2. So 1943 onwards. So expect B29's, nukes, and Kamikazi. ;D


Woodlouse, wherever you got that wisdon from, I wouldn't hold my breath for it ;).
CFS4 is cancelled, there will be none.
If it comes it won't be the pacific.
Hence no info at E3.
If you want CFS4 write mail to MS asking for it.
do it now, don't wait until June ::)
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Re: Oh well, maybe CFS4 will be better!

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Mon May 24, 2004 6:47 am


Woodlouse, wherever you got that wisdon from, I wouldn't hold my breath for it ;).
CFS4 is cancelled, there will be none.
If it comes it won't be the pacific.
Hence no info at E3.
If you want CFS4 write mail to MS asking for it.
do it now, don't wait until June ::)

I did say "if". The wisdom comes from common sense, being that CFS2 didn't end in 1945 but 1943. So it stands to reason that CFS4 will be from 1943 to 1947 like CFS3.

Also, Hagar spoke to someone from sim-outhouse who has/had a part in CFS4 and he says pretty much the same. ;)
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Re: Oh well, maybe CFS4 will be better!

Postby Mathias » Mon May 24, 2004 7:38 am

I did say "if". The wisdom comes from common sense, being that CFS2 didn't end in 1945 but 1943. So it stands to reason that CFS4 will be from 1943 to 1947 like CFS3.

Also, Hagar spoke to someone from sim-outhouse who has/had a part in CFS4 and he says pretty much the same. ;)


Well, I don't think there are "officals" at the outhouse staff with insight to CFS developement as they have pretty much p****d off the Aces with some nasty anti-campaigns in the past, with the result that one certain Aces team member who posted fairly regularly at public boards has been shut up by management.
There is a certain individual over at SOH who has been pampered by a lowlife of the MS sales crowd sort of "Hey, great that you like our stuff", but that's about it.
Fact is, CFS4 hasn't been announced at E3, there is no beta testing whatsoever, MS is holding back finished CFS3 patches and new version of the terrain SDK,
CFS4, when it was still alive, was not supposed to be in the pacific.
They pulled the plug on CFS as they did on TS, just that it dies in all silence unless you and me send mail to MS regularly.
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Postby Scorpiоn » Mon May 24, 2004 1:23 pm

I don't understand what everyone's so upset about.  CFS3 is still rather new and Microsoft has a habit of not announcing simulators untill they're just about finished.

People feel like Microsoft has some sort of obligation towards them to make up for CFS3. ::)
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Re: Oh well, maybe CFS4 will be better!

Postby nickle » Mon May 24, 2004 4:14 pm

So romantic 605.  

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Postby Scorpiоn » Mon May 24, 2004 4:31 pm

To quote Silent: "Ugh, online translators..."

::) It is a nice song actually, sad, but nice. :)

Back on topic... ::)
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Postby Mathias » Mon May 24, 2004 4:39 pm

[quote]I don't understand what everyone's so upset about.
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Postby Mathias » Mon May 24, 2004 5:10 pm

To quote Silent: "Ugh, online translators..."

::) It is a nice song actually, sad, but nice. :)

Back on topic... ::)


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