Did German planes suck this bad in real life?

[Whitey]

stall - When the wings stops producing lift

Taken from: http://www.aero.hq.nasa.gov/edu/mean.html

Even that Rod Machado guy in the FS2002 lessons says a stall is simply when a wing stops producing lift, not when your airspeed is too low.  Although there is a certain speed in level flight where this happens on every aircraft...

I think Whiskey_Zulu is under the impression that a stall happens because your airspeed is too low. That isn't the case.

Whiskey_Zulu:  Just to make sure you know...the P-51 can dogfight with one notch of flaps down.  It works, I do it all the time.  Flaps increase the curvature of the wing and so more lift is produced.  20 degrees of flpad creates more lift, so lowers your stall speed, but it won't cause a considerable drop in your performance.

[Hagar]

I accept that Whitey. My point is, despite all the complex technical explanations, if your airspeed is too low you will fall out of the sky. I guarantee it.

[SyPrO_CaStEr]

in a way it would be very difficult for an F-18 to shoot down a camel:) almost impossible to get a heat seaking lock, a radar lock wouldnt be possible, and guns would be difficult as the stall speed of the hornet has to be faster than top speed of a camel:) all it would have to do is wait for the hornet to over shoot then fire guns quickly certainly would be interesting:)

wohoo!!

[visitor]

A camel probably had a radar sign,
about the size of a, belt buckle!!
With the whole engine spining
and no metal in the sturcture,
yea, a belt buckle!!!

X

[SyPrO_CaStEr]

hey, i think the only way to down a sopwith in a F18 is to go low down, and wosh past the camel at the speed of sound!!! :-/ that will surely put the camel into a stall and flip to the ground


thow i think your not allowed to break the barrier that low....

[Whiskey_Zulu]

[quote]stall - When the wings stops producing lift

Taken from: http://www.aero.hq.nasa.gov/edu/mean.html

Even that Rod Machado guy in the FS2002 lessons says a stall is simply when a wing stops producing lift, not when your airspeed is too low.

[robbo180265]

Without getting too involved in this argument (and belive me the "what causes a stall" thread is a blinder !

My advice to you Whiskey-Zulu is to forget all about the "stock" Microsoft aircraft - that is the ones that came with the game. Most people agree that these are less than realistic.

Instead download the 1% standalone aircraft . These are supposed to perform as realisticialy as possible (within 1% of the original) and they come with better paint jobs as well .

You can find them here , at Avhistory , sim-outhouse

Good luck and (hopefully) happy flying  ;D

[Crumbso]

Thats where youre wrong my friend it is all to do with angle of attack. I shall quote the airlaw training book "Stall occurs when the angle of attack of the wing of the aircraft reaches 16 degrees or over" It is just dependant on how much lift a wing can generate at the certain speed which varies with the shape of the wing or the weight or etc...... which then affects the stall speed for each aircraft

[robbo180265]

For goodness sake - the poor guy is asking for help and all you lot can do is argue over who is right about stalling  >:(

Grow up !

[Smoke2much]

like a one legged cat trying to bury a turd on a frozen pond.

I love this quote, can I use it or will you require payment?

Will

[Whiskey_Zulu]

I love this quote, can I use it or will you require payment?

Will

Its from Beavis and Butthead.

[Whitey]

OK, I had a link once to a M$ site that explained how to fly the aircraft to there limits...helped me a lot with the 190.  I'll tey to find it again for you.

[Crumbso]

For goodness sake - the poor guy is asking for help and all you lot can do is argue over who is right about stalling  

Grow up !

oh shutup he already got told an answer.

this is the first time I post in the cfs3 forum and I get told to grow up. I won't be coming here again.

[Whiskey_Zulu]

[quote]OK, I had a link once to a M$ site that explained how to fly the aircraft to there limits...helped me a lot with the 190.

[Iroquois]

The stall rate on German planes vs British planes is fairly simple to explain. German planes had a rectangular shaped wing that were very thin. Thin rectangular wings offer good to excellent preformance but at the cost of a nasty unpredictable stall rate. British planes had thicker wings in an oval shape. This type of wing offers excellent preformance as well without the unpredictable stall. Weight also comes into play. Fully loaded, the FW190 can become quite heavy. It now doesn't have a good enough Power to Weight ratio to maintain a steep climb.

To sume up, areodynamics are a lot more than just air producing lift. Different wing shapes can produce differing amounts of lift and preformance. You may wish to search the net or even get a book on areodynamics to get a better understanding. Better yet, get a WW2 pocket guide to aircraft, they list preformance stats, I use them frequently in FS2002 and CFS3 to get climb rates and other information.