Where did Microsoft go wrong?

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Where did Microsoft go wrong?

Postby west » Sun Jul 06, 2003 10:39 pm

I just bought cfs3 and am very unsatisfied with its performance.  I also have MSFS2002 running with the highest quality settings without any problem but I can't even get the opening cfs3 page to run smoothly without going to really low settings.  I have done the patch, the riva tuner thing and the video drivers etc with no resulting change in performance.  Typical behaviour is when I fly and get into a dogfight it will freeze for a few seconds, especially when I fire the guns, the aerodynamic models are crap, the planes seem to stall if you do a tight turn etc etc.  What else can I try to improve things?  My advice so far, to anyone who wants this sort of package is to buy something else.  I was expecting to get MSFS2k2 with combat facitilites but I think the free game that came with MSFS2k2 (fighter ace I think) is much better!  Give me your thoughts!
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Hmph...

Postby Scorpiоn » Sun Jul 06, 2003 11:45 pm

Personally, my thoughts are I'm tired of griping posts.  We've had these incessantly since the day CFS3 came out.
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Postby SyPrO_CaStEr » Mon Jul 07, 2003 12:15 am

yeah, i'm tired of people complaining, but no offence aye.... have a look around at other post West, that may help you....
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Re: Where did Microsoft go wrong?

Postby gregoryp » Mon Jul 07, 2003 3:58 am

[quote]   the aerodynamic models are crap, the planes seem to stall if you do a tight turn etc etc.
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Re: Where did Microsoft go wrong?

Postby maverick8806 » Mon Jul 07, 2003 6:04 am

west, u can't expect WWII planes to fly like F-16's or F-18's... . Check out the other posts, u'll find some tips to reduce the stalling... .I hope u'll find out that CFS3 is a good game.
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Re: Where did Microsoft go wrong?

Postby Whitey » Mon Jul 07, 2003 10:18 am

I'm beggining to get fed up of people only posting complaints... >:(

If you have a problem, ask how to sort it, please...don't just rant about it. ;) :)
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Re: Where did Microsoft go wrong?

Postby codered » Mon Jul 07, 2003 1:21 pm

It took buying a new video card for me.  Also, do not expect to have the sliders maxed out just because you have FS2002 maxed.  They are two completely different beasts.  I have the sliders on CFS3 about half.  I have the detail turned up on the things that are very important to me, and the lesser things turned down or off.  As far as aircraft performance, like it was said they are not F16's.  Their performance is based on your loadout and fuel.  For example, the P51 fully loaded with weapons and fuel will perform terrible.  This holds true from interviews with actual  pilots of P51's.  
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Re: Where did Microsoft go wrong?

Postby Woodlouse2002 » Mon Jul 07, 2003 4:00 pm

west, u can't expect WWII planes to fly like F-16's or F-18's... . Check out the other posts, u'll find some tips to reduce the stalling... .I hope u'll find out that CFS3 is a good game.

I personally expect my Spitfires to fly better than F16's and F18's. :P They can certainly turn tighter.
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Re: Where did Microsoft go wrong?

Postby Iroquois » Mon Jul 07, 2003 5:25 pm

If West posts his system specs including DirectX version and video card driver version, maybe I can help.
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Re: Where did Microsoft go wrong?

Postby 4_Series_Scania » Mon Jul 07, 2003 5:45 pm

I don't think Microsoft "went wrong" as such, I feel its more a case of some of us users expecting far too much out of CFS3 with our CFS2 / FS2002 optimised machines.......

I had CFS2 running superbly , giving excellent screenshots as many forum members will recall,however, I still expected to upgrade once CFS3 was released.

I did'nt expect to have to replace my Mobo, CPU, RAM and Graphics card (Twice!)

Firstly, CFS2 was great as I said on my old setup.
This was the following.....
PIII 667, 256MB 133 SDRAM, Geforce2 MX400 64 MB.
When I installed CFS3, I was impressed it ran at all! However, upgrades were required.

I Then replaced the MX400 with aGeforce4 MX440 64MB and CFS3 was truly transformed! - It was now possible to actually see flight albeit with stutters etc

The Riva Tweak et al was applied, and the results while better, still weren't near acceptable for a combat sim.

OK, Time to get Radical........

Motherboard Replaced,along with a nice new Sct 478 Celeron 1.7Ghz CPU (Me foolishly thinking it was a number crunching deficiency on my pIII's part....) along with some PC 2700 DDR RAM of 256MB size...... A 7200 RPM Seagate 80Gb HD can't hurt either I thought......

Great! some results at last....... Alas,still stutters and this was after the fabled MS 3.1 Patch along with that CD Patch.........
Hmm, me thinks, could it be RAM?
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Re: Where did Microsoft go wrong?

Postby west » Mon Jul 07, 2003 10:24 pm

Ahh, at last something constructive, of course I always thought a forum was the place to have a good winge, Microsoft sure as hell don't want to know!!
I am using a 1.4 gHz AMD processor with 256 DDR RAM and a gForce 4 MX440 64 Mb video card, 4 series scania can you tell me what your "proper" video card is?
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Good Position

Postby Scorpiоn » Mon Jul 07, 2003 11:08 pm

1.4 Ghz?
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Re: Where did Microsoft go wrong?

Postby Whitey » Tue Jul 08, 2003 3:56 am

Clouds really eat my framerates... :(...they make it stutter from tiem to time as well...flak's not a problem, just clouds! ::)

Oh well, I run smoothly with everything except clouds set at 5.  Clouds are set at 3. ;D
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Re: Where did Microsoft go wrong?

Postby 1danny » Tue Jul 08, 2003 4:16 pm

i disabled clouds and rain i only fly on sunny days now just bought some ram a lamb a ding dongs do i hop eha helps i really wnt it too
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Re: Where did Microsoft go wrong?

Postby Danny » Tue Jul 08, 2003 10:52 pm

it worked it worked 256 ram added did the trick ;D
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