Long live CFS1, 2 and 3!

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Re: Long live CFS1, 2 and 3!

Postby Bombardier101 » Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:56 am

Hey guys,

Changed the title to something much more suitable.

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I used to have something about that, CFS2 worked fine.

Just as a reminder what you are supposed to outlive (as the title of this thread tells)

Lol! ;D

Soon I will have to show development pics just like Bear, won't I? ;D

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Re: Long live CFS1, 2 and 3!

Postby Hagar » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:01 am

Soon I will have to show development pics just like Bear, won't I? ;D

Be careful about doing that or people will keep bothering you demanding to know when it will be ready. My standard reply is that it will take as long as it takes & won't be released until I'm completely satisfied with it. This is the biggest advantage of freeware for me. No deadlines, no pressure & you get the very best the developer is capable of at the time it was released. You can't ask for more than that. ;)
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Re: Long live CFS1, 2 and 3!

Postby AvHistory » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:27 am

Hey guys,
I used to have something about that, CFS2 worked fine.
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I still have mine.
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Re: Long live CFS1, 2 and 3!

Postby Corsair Freak » Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:36 pm

I ain't a developer.  :o
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Re: Long live CFS1, 2 and 3!

Postby Hagar » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:06 pm

[quote]I ain't a developer.
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Re: Long live CFS1, 2 and 3!

Postby IndioBlack » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:09 pm

I guess this will come over patronising or something, which isn't intentioned. But I apologise to Mathias if we misunderstood each other. I forget we're an International community and I hadn't realised he was from Germany and therefore not writing in his native language. So maybe the subtleties and irony we use in everyday discourse between English speakers sometimes gets missed.

Having said that, I think I'll take a B-17 up and bomb Germany tonight. In CFS3,  of course, so I'm shooting myself in the foot at the same time. But at least I'll look cool whilst I'm doing it. 8)
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Re: CFS3 Dev

Postby Stratobat » Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:31 pm

You must be joking. We have Thicko doing lovely planes (Akemi too!), Stiz making all kinds of wierd and wonderful things (take the WW1 project for a great example!), Corsair Freak does things like exhaust (alternative DPs) and sometimes scenery and I do alternative DPs, scenery, missions, campaigns and some small misc stuff. And now and again you may see someone you maybe don't normally see uploading putting in something for CFS2. Also Fox Four, which make the great Korea Campaigns and things like that. So how can you say we don't have new designers in the mix? We have plenty of good designers and maybe I would be classed as a 'new' one. Now if MS kept CFS2 on shelves and mentioned the great availabillity of new addons for it then CFS2 would live a long and happy life. And if the same were to go for 1 and 3, they too would live long, happy lives. That's my statement and in my opinion MS should get to and do it. This is a great hobby and it shouldn't die! ;)


Nope, I'm not joking!

All the Developer's you mentioned above have been Developing for years, save for you and Corsair Freak ;D

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Re: Long live CFS1, 2 and 3!

Postby AvHistory » Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:32 pm

BTW this is the current list of MAW aircraft.

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Focke-Wulf FW 190A-2
Focke-Wulf FW 190A-3
Focke-Wulf FW 190A-4 Trop
Focke-Wulf FW 190A-5
Focke-Wulf FW 190F-3
Focke-Wulf FW 190F-8
Messerschmitt BF 109E-2 Trop
Messerschmitt BF 109E-7 Trop
Messerschmitt BF 109F-2 Trop
Messerschmitt BF 109F-4 Trop
Messerschmitt BF 109G-2 Trop
Messerschmitt BF 109G-4 Trop
Messerschmitt BF 109G-6 Trop
Messerschmitt BF 109G-10
Messerschmitt BF 110C
Messerschmitt BF 110D
Messerschmitt BF 110E
Messerschmitt BF 110G
Dornier Do 17 Trop
Heinkel He 111h-3
Heinkel He 111h-6
Junkers Ju 87B
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Re: Long live CFS1, 2 and 3!

Postby Bombardier101 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:46 am

No but you can be if you wish. Start in a small way by doing things for yourself. Who knows where you will be several months from now? It's much easier now than when I started as all the tutes & utilities are available to help you.

The earlier sims like CFS1 or CFS2 can give you a good start. I progressed from CFS1 to CFS2 & from what Bear is saying many of the CFS3 guys did the same. I was never interested in CFS3 as it won't run at all well on my system. That's the only real reason so I can't comment on what it's like. There's still a place in this hobby for everyone if only they would stop fighting over which is the best. ::)


100% agreed. I just started by making silly little fictional missions that didn't work properly, but I slowly started learning. And also I had an 'exploration expedition' of the CFS2 main folder. And gradualy I started learning what everything does. And now look at me! ;D I know what most things do and about the only thing I can't make is a visual model of an aircraft. That's how far anyone can go with a bit of brains, imaginitivity, motivation and time. Even people as young as 10 can do something like it. But Hagar we are not fighting over which is best anymore, although in a poll in the CFS3 forum more people liked CFS2. I'm not being pompous or anything, there was a poll that had those results. I voted CFS2 ;D

Stratobat, sorry I didn't make my point properly. I was to say that we had a good handful of 'old hands' at CFS2 dev and I guess Brandon and I are the "young 'uns" eh?

It would be nice to show MS that us CFS2 designers are absolutely capable of making a CFS4 out of CFS2. Then we could say "That's how much potential this has!".
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Re: Long live CFS1, 2 and 3!

Postby Bombardier101 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:48 am

[quote]I ain't a developer.
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Re: Long live CFS1, 2 and 3!

Postby IndioBlack » Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:21 am

That MAW Aircraft list is really... ermm what's the word -long.  Almost as long as the list of developed aircraft for STRIKE FIGHTERS, and almost as long as the list of aircraft that ship with the IL2/PACIFIC FIGHTERS Sim.
But it ain't nowhere near as long as the list of aircraft, panels, gauges, missions, campaigns, terrains, and tools that people have developed for CFS2.

However,  I think your stuff from MAW looks really good, and for those who are interested in this area of the War, unlike me, it should be a real blast.
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Re: Long live CFS1, 2 and 3!

Postby Bombardier101 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 4:44 am

Yes it is, good work MAW! What is OFF anyway? ???

This is the biggest advantage of freeware for me. No deadlines, no pressure & you get the very best the developer is capable of at the time it was released. You can't ask for more than that. ;)


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Re: Long live CFS1, 2 and 3!

Postby Mathias » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:25 am

[quote]That MAW Aircraft list is really... ermm what's the word -long.
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Re: Long live CFS1, 2 and 3!

Postby Bombardier101 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:38 am

So M$ teams up with the CFS3 dev guys and CFS2 gets the bum deal? >:( I'm not opposed to CFS3 dev but seriously CFS2 is getting ignored. That's what really gets me going >:( That's why I started this post in the first place...geez....:(:( :-/ :-/
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Re: Long live CFS1, 2 and 3!

Postby Bombardier101 » Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:45 am

But it ain't nowhere near as long as the list of aircraft, panels, gauges, missions, campaigns, terrains, and tools that people have developed for CFS2.

I agree, but it soon will surpass CFS2 unless more developers help out... :(
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