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Re: Let's outlive CFS3

Postby IndioBlack » Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:35 pm

Yes Mathias and Bear, you guys are hard at work, but you've a lot of catching up to do, particularly as CFS3 is a lot more complicated than CFS2, so not that many people are turning stuff out fast enough.

You'll be able to crow when the 1% Lancaster comes out - I'm still waiting for that one.

Regarding performance issues - you are right: when CFS2 came out a lot of people didn't have powerful computers, but they could still run the game.
With CFS3, a lot of people just seem to have trouble getting it to work.
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Re: Let's outlive CFS3

Postby Mathias » Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:22 pm

Yes Mathias and Bear, you guys are hard at work, but you've a lot of catching up to do, particularly as CFS3 is a lot more complicated than CFS2, so not that many people are turning stuff out fast enough.

You'll be able to crow when the 1% Lancaster comes out - I'm still waiting for that one.

Regarding performance issues - you are right: when CFS2 came out a lot of people didn't have powerful computers, but they could still run the game.
With CFS3, a lot of people just seem to have trouble getting it to work.


Well no, CFS3 is not complicated to mod and most have the performance issues ironed out by now.
Not shure what you want to tell me with the Lanc remark, that's just one of many projects in my folders, beside I don't think that I ow you something.
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Re: Let's outlive CFS3

Postby AvHistory » Fri Sep 09, 2005 5:31 pm

particularly as CFS3 is a lot more complicated than CFS2, so not that many people are turning stuff out fast enough.


I think you will find we released more CFS3 planes (105) then we did CFS2 planes (100) and in half the elapsed time.
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Re: Let's outlive CFS3

Postby james007 » Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:38 pm

Please lets stop this very boring subject. There are  lot more interesting subject to be posted than this one. We are just hurting the Hobby we all love so much. Don"t you realize that. Both this Sims have their fuction in the Sim combat world.

Now let grow up and move on to other subjects please.

This is a plea not a opinion

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Re: Let's outlive CFS3

Postby AvHistory » Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:55 am

Interesting how this boring subject has more posts & views per day then the next 70 or so posts in the forum, don't you think?

James, y'all should really lighten up a bit & try pontificating a little less. These are just computer games of passing interest nothing more, nothing less & definitely not real life items that should be cherished and adored. They are just not all that important in the real world scheme of things

Anyone who lives & dies over any one of these computer games is seriously lacking a real life.
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Re: Let's outlive CFS3

Postby Mathias » Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:36 am

WOW Bear, I certainly wouldn't want to have my neck in the way when you use your hands like that!  ;D
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Re: Let's outlive CFS3

Postby IndioBlack » Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:45 am

To clarify: the Lanc remark means:

Sure all those pictures of various aircraft look okay, but they don't spin my engine. If you'd put up a picture of the finished Lanc that has been promised for so long, then I'd have something else to do other than trawling these boards.  ;)

Regarding you guys having built more for CFS3 than CFS2 - well that just applies to you. My belief is that there is more out there for CFS2, because CFS3 stuff seems slow in coming. And that may be because it's more difficult to do. I'm not going to try it, because I'm confortable with making stuff for CFS2 and enjoy flying it more than CFS3. I just use CFS3 to fly heavy bombers, because CFS3 is set up for that slightly better. IMHO.

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Re: Let's outlive CFS3

Postby Mathias » Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:37 am

[quote]To clarify: the Lanc remark means:

If you'd put up a picture of the finished Lanc that has been promised for so long, then I'd have something else to do other than trawling these boards.
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Re: Let's outlive CFS3

Postby AvHistory » Sat Sep 10, 2005 1:29 pm

Sure all those pictures of various aircraft look okay, but they don't spin my engine.


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Re: Let's outlive CFS3

Postby IndioBlack » Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:41 am

Since you're missing the point on every occasion, I'll stick to one point at a time.

From a consumer's point of view, I perceive that there are not enough new add-ons for CFS3 coming out frequently enough to suggest that CFS3 is a healthy, thriving Sim.

Your response to this was the old canard where you stick up the best photographs you've got of the aircraft you're currently developing to try and show how thriving the CFS3 add-ons really are.

This fails miserably, because a handful of aircraft pictures proves nothing more than that you guys have been developing some aircraft that are probably already available in other Sims.

You used a similar ploy, of showing your favourite aircraft pictures on the CFS3 board, when the argument about whether PACIFIC FIGHTERS was better than CFS3 cropped up. Unfortunately for you CFS3 chappies, that exploded in your face when a bunch of PF guys joined the board and showed a few of their favourite aircraft pictures from PF. Since CFS3 is probably one of the graphically ugliest Sims in existence, trying to compare it with what is probably the most graphically beautiful Sim in existence by showing some of your favourite aircraft pictures, is doomed to failure.

So when you ran your favourite aircraft pictures here, in defense of CFS3, not only did I get a strong sense of deja vu, I also saw the intense irony of it all.
Which is why I jokingly suggested that if you'd shown a Lancaster, then that might have made me excited: implying that the aircraft that you had shown me, were of no interest to me whatsoever, and that showing them made no valid point.  
So to clarify this matter: When, and if, you do finish the Lancaster, it will make little difference to me. If I wish to fly this aircraft in CFS3, I already use the FIREPOWER commercial add-on, and because CFS2 is thriving much better than CFS3, there are naturally several Lancasters already available out there for me to fly in that Sim too.
So please, no more responses about you finishing your Lancaster when you're good and ready, and you not owing me anything; because it's of no importance to me whether you do finish it or not. It just gets in the way of the main point that CFS2 is thriving much better than CFS3.
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Re: Let's outlive CFS3

Postby stiz » Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:21 am

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Re: Let's outlive CFS3

Postby Corsair Freak » Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:32 am

Damn Straight.
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Re: Let's outlive CFS3

Postby AvHistory » Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:39 pm


You used a similar ploy, of showing your favourite aircraft pictures on the CFS3 board, when the argument about whether PACIFIC FIGHTERS was better than CFS3 cropped up. Unfortunately for you CFS3 chappies, that exploded in your face when a bunch of PF guys joined the board and showed a few of their favourite aircraft pictures from PF.


You mean the same thread where Oleg ran off because he could not answer the hard questions about his flight models?

The exact same questions he now seems to be trying to answer with BOB's all new flight models?

Interesting how the PF guys followed Oleg's lead & all bailed out really quick when the hard questions got asked about the games content and ability to re-enact WWII in the Pacific.

As for the aircraft visuals beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My pictures are direct screen captures & its funny how my copy of PF does not look as good on my screen as many of the posted PF pictures. PF does have nice water for a flight sim....:)

if you'd shown a Lancaster, then that might have made me excited: implying that the aircraft that you had shown me, were of no interest to me whatsoever, and that showing them made no valid point.


This isn't about you so your personal excitement level is really of no importance except to yourself in this debate & is not valid as a proof of your point.

Based on requests to build & existing download patterns these planes are of great interest to many others & the fact that we like them moves them to the top of the production list.

The point you continue to miss, whether you like it or not, its our choice what to develop.
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Re: Let's outlive CFS3

Postby Hagar » Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:51 pm

Give it a break chaps. ::)

You all do excellent work & we're grateful for it. When all is said & done it's just a game you're getting so worked up about.
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Re: Let's outlive CFS3

Postby AvHistory » Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:14 pm

When all is said & done it's just a game you're getting so worked up about.


Not to worry, this thread is just a light duty time killer.  ;)
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