Which tactics are best?

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Re: Which tactics are best?

Postby dcunning30 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:19 am

james007,

I see.  Seems I ddin't quite understand you then.  Anyway, that question about sims regarding Europe is an interesting one.  Let me give my opinion.  Being more interested in the Pacific War than Europe, I was very interested in the FPS, MOHPA.  So far, it's had moderate success at best.  If you visit the MOHPA forums, everyone's complaining about the sim.  First of all, Electronic Arts released an unfinished product, I suppose to take advantage of the Christmas season and other bad decisions such as the Flyboys mission, which is horrible.  But I began to think through the local.  Playing a FPS located in pacific islands are just not as interesting as playing  a FPS located in and around European towns and cities.  Now, for a Pacific War history freak like me, I was eating it up, but for the casual gamer, lugging a sniper rifle through the rubble of Stalingrad is far more interesting.
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Re: Which tactics are best?

Postby dcunning30 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:44 am

[quote]I should clarify DC,
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Re: Which tactics are best?

Postby MadTIGERmaN » Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:14 pm

DC...  Your points are well taken.....
Except for every person who said Iraq is another Vietnam,   You have someone calling Sadaam the next Hitler,  INCLUDING the President who called Iraq, Iran and N.Korea "the new Axis of Evil"   compairing them to Germany, Italy, and Japan.

so it works both ways.

I feel its much closer to Vietnam then WW2.  Im pretty good friends with a recruiter, and hes said how hard recruiting is right now,  because of troops being sent off to be a police force in a land where they want you dead.

Anyway,  to wrap up my point.  The Educated soldier is less likely to do something,  "war crime" worthy,  Then the brainwashed soldier.

Just look at who the Japs would recruit for Kamakazee missions....  

and im not talking educated in an ABC, 123's way,  more of a cultural way.
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Re: Which tactics are best?

Postby dcunning30 » Wed Aug 10, 2005 1:28 pm

[quote]I feel its much closer to Vietnam then WW2.
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Re: Which tactics are best?

Postby MadTIGERmaN » Fri Aug 12, 2005 12:26 am

I cant say forsure,  but i know the Japs had certain "types"  for the Kamakazee....   people with low self esteem perhaps?  they would build them up telling them "look at the honor you will do for your country"  

Actually, pretty much the same type of tactis the terrorists use for suicide bombers.   People with that same mentality.

but those same types of people are easy recruits for our armed forces too (ares meaning the US as i am from america)  We just know theyre worth more alive then dead....  and we dont call them "suicide missions"  even if they have little hope.....  can you imagine the PR on that one?

And about the news,  its not all one sided,  its actually drastically both sided.  

I saw 2 articles in the same paper in one day not long ago.

One was about how great life in Iraq is now,  how X% of people now have phones/cell phones, internet access, and all these other things that they never had before.

then on the next page it says how horrible life in Iraq is,  that you only get 4 hours of Electricity a day, and little water.

What the writer wants you to believe, is what they will spin the story too......

Which helped make the Flying Tigers into Gods of Aviators,  along with Jimmy Doolittle and his Raiders,  Boyington and the Black Sheap (talk about bending the truth,  how bout his book and TV show?)
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Re: Which tactics are best?

Postby james007 » Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:28 am

You have got to remeber the way they though back then was different that the way we think to day.

What many writters forget is that most of the time the truth is more interesting than created Myth.

Military Myth are created to reduce fear and create confidence. Sometimes Goverment need to do this.

But Historian given the appropiate time. Should exclude them from actual historical records.

I blame our present day Historians for not been more critical.

This is only a opinion

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I Disagree d.c

Postby Bombardier101 » Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:01 am

All this hype of "We don't support the war but we support the troops" is nonsense.  The troops are defined by their mission.


I'm sorry Dcunning but I disagree with you on that.

I think what they mean is they want the troops to stay alive and well (and probably get them out of Iraq), but they don't want them to wage war. I hope I've made my point without any offence.

Back to the subject, does anyone know what tactics the Luftwaffe employed? The only ones I can think of are Nachtjagd tactics:

-Wilde Sau (Wild Boar/Pig)

-Zahme Sau (Tame Boar/Pig)

-Schrage Musik (Slanting Music)

If any one wants to know what these tactics are feel free to ask me here or if anyone can add more Luftwaffe tactics feel free to tell me here.

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Re: Which tactics are best?

Postby MadTIGERmaN » Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:09 am

Please do tell us Bomberman :)  would love to hear what those tactics are?   interesting names.


And your right on about the support our troops but not the war thing.  Thats how ive felt all along and meant to address that with DC.   Im a big Pearl Jam fan, and they cought MAJOR flack back in 03 for voicing up against Bush.  Suddenly because they did not support the presidents decision to go to war,  they were un-american, un-patriotic, and wanted the troops dead?   Which makes no sence really,  how can people who dont support war, because they want PEACE want troops dead?    and so on,  i could go on forever about the subject.  And i do think the best part about Eddie Vedder and Pearl Jam through that whole thing,  Is that Eddie V is very well knowledge on the subject, and isnt just another celebrity wind bag.
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Re: I Disagree d.c

Postby dcunning30 » Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:47 pm

I think what they mean is they want the troops to stay alive and well (and probably get them out of Iraq), but they don't want them to wage war. I hope I've made my point without any offence.



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