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CFS dumps me back to the desktop without notice!

Postby phil424 » Thu Dec 26, 2002 11:10 am

Running an Intel 1.6 Pent IV 845WN motherboard with 512 mb RAM, Windows XP.  CFS set to default which calls for display to be maxed for everything except ground shadows.

Fine!  Except that after a few minutes of really satisfying action, I am suddenly "warped" to the desktop.  Adding insult to injury, the desktop colors have changed to a light tan background (About the color of the one in CFS.) necessitating resetting the "Properties" for the desktop.

Anybody got any words of wisdom about how to fix this one?  It does seem to correlate with the complexity of he scenery and the number of a/c in the particular mission.

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Re: CFS dumps me back to the desktop without notic

Postby Flavio » Sat Jan 11, 2003 1:03 pm

I have the same bug in my game/machine, and trying to fix it. Good to now i'm not alone. I'm very sad about this bug.
Let's compare our computers: my is an AMD K6 :(-2 500 mhz, 128mb ram, video card NVIDIA Riva TNT2 model 64 32 mb with the latest driver, sound Creative AWE64 16-bit. Perhaps it's some problem with an of these components.
Anyone, make us happy, please ! ! ! ! !
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Re: CFS dumps me back to the desktop without notic

Postby Hagar » Sat Jan 11, 2003 7:08 pm

Not sure if this will help. Neither of you mentioned your Desktop resolution. The recommended setting for earlier sims like CFS1 is High Color (16 bit).
This setting is for Win98/Me. I have no knowledge of XP.
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Re: CFS dumps me back to the desktop without notic

Postby Flavio » Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:03 am

The resolution already is high color 16 bits 800x600 win98, this is not the problem.
Searching for answers, i found in Microsoft Suport page a similar question, and they say that it is an IRQ allocation or of the video or of the sound card. These components have to be allocated to a specific IRQ, if another component is participating of this IRQ, the problem happens. In my computer, the video card is in IRQ 11 with an ACPI IRQ routing of IRQ PCI, and i still don't know how to set the video card to another IRQ.
They say there are some video cards that can be configured to different iRQs, but i think my can not.
I say again, i have a NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 model 64 32 mb, anyone can help me?
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Re: CFS dumps me back to the desktop without notic

Postby Phil Andrew » Mon Jan 13, 2003 2:25 pm

Sincemmy initial query, I have upgraded my video card to a Radeon 9000 Pro Series (64mb).  Now, my game sets itself upon the first running after installation.  I have not had enough time to evaluate the result of the new hardware.  Windows XP has a feature that alows game to be installed as if it were running at the last point at which it was reliable.  I chose Win 95.

We shall see!

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Re: CFS dumps me back to the desktop without notic

Postby phil424 » Fri Jan 24, 2003 2:25 pm

I finally asked Microsoft for help and they suggested un-installing CFS and re-installing with a clean boot in a directory all by itself.  I did all that they suggested, and what do you know?  It worked, at least after a few days of intensive playing it hasn't dumped me again. Go figure!

All three CFS programs seem to me to be inherently unstable, prone to all the ills of computerdom.  I'm not smart enough to know why, let alone how to fix it, so I'll just keep chuggin' along!

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Re: CFS dumps me back to the desktop without notic

Postby phil424 » Fri Jan 24, 2003 2:26 pm

I finally asked Microsoft for help and they suggested un-installing CFS and re-installing with a clean boot in a directory all by itself.  I did all that they suggested, and what do you know?  It worked, at least after a few days of intensive playing it hasn't dumped me again. Go figure!

All three CFS programs seem to me to be inherently unstable, prone to all the ills of computerdom.  I'm not smart enough to know why, let alone how to fix it, so I'll just keep chuggin' along!

Cheers,

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Re: CFS dumps me back to the desktop without notic

Postby Hagar » Fri Jan 24, 2003 2:52 pm

All three CFS programs seem to me to be inherently unstable, prone to all the ills of computerdom.

This may be true for CFS3 but certainly not CFS1 & 2.
CFS1 was always bug free as far as installation is concerned & would run well on even low-end machines without a 3D card. It ran perfectly on my own PII 233 + Voodoo2 with 128 Mb RAM on Win95. I've tried it on many different systems on Win95/98/Me with no problem at all. CFS2 needed a slightly more powerful system but is much the same.

Problems with earlier versions of the M$ sims seem more common on the latest powerful processors & made worse by the introduction of WinXP. (I've never used it but this seems worse if you update to XP from an earlier OS.) I'm sure this is the cause of most problems you're having, not the software itself. Providing they're installed properly both CFS1 & CFS2 should run like a rocket on your system. I can't promise the same for CFS3.
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Re: CFS dumps me back to the desktop without notic

Postby Flavio » Sat Jan 25, 2003 10:31 pm

I have a question for Phil424:

What do you mean "re-installing with a clean boot in a directory all by itself"? Are you running the game under your new or old video card? If you changed the card this may be the reason that it is working, isn
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Re: CFS dumps me back to the desktop without notic

Postby Chriscgtp51 » Fri Feb 07, 2003 4:28 pm

Hi guys, so I am not alone with this dumping problem ;D
One thing that is strage is that flying a mission in a campaign  at the best part  :o dump.Restarting PC , fly another mission with more graphics no problems ???.This problems seems to appear in some missions. I am having this trouble in the Eastern Front 1 campaign.
PC wise 700Mhz , Asus 32mb display, 64ram. I am going to reinstall CFS and hope for the best, lot of work, Cfs now nearly 2gig big.
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Re: CFS dumps me back to the desktop without notic

Postby Chriscgtp51 » Wed Feb 12, 2003 1:40 pm

Hi guys,
I reinstalled CFS and installed Enditall.( nice little program to close programs when flying)Utilities
No dumps so far  ;D, installed Cfs in its own dir, not under program files. Finished Ef campaign  ;) and startet new one. Me109 a bugger to land.
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Re: CFS dumps me back to the desktop without notic

Postby loughor » Thu Feb 20, 2003 5:29 pm

I used to have this problem under XP. I found there were two causes.

One - something unexplained that was fixed when I had to reinstall XP, and then later

Two - some download 'planes were incompatible with XP in the Zone.

My only suggestion is that if you are using CD 'planes, reformat your hard disk and reinstall XP with all the latest drivers. If using downloaded models, either look for updated models that specifically state they work with XP or abandon incompatible ones.

That worked for me - maybe not for you. Good luck - you can get round it somehow.
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Re: CFS dumps me back to the desktop without notic

Postby fm3 » Wed May 28, 2003 10:50 pm

[quote]Running an Intel 1.6 Pent IV 845WN motherboard with 512 mb RAM, Windows XP.
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Re: CFS dumps me back to the desktop without notic

Postby Terry Baldwin » Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:19 am

This reply originally ended up in the 'WinXP & CFS' topic when it was directed to 'CFS dumps me................' by mistake, however here it is again:---

I have been suffering this for ages on my win95 and XP. I am convinced it is connected to the aircraft involved, i.e. non CFS A/C.  
Any A/C from the FS series is a potential CFS disaster as far as I'm concerned.  
I have written a campaign featuring a Swordfish and whichever version I used caused the problem.  
In the end I gave up, it still lies in my pending tray awaiting an acceptable aircraft.
My advice is to change the aircraft. and keep to standard CFS aircraft if possible.
Unfortunately when writing missions one need a wider range of
aircraft, but those modified from the FS series leave much to be desired.
Trouble is nobody seems to be developing decent dedicated planes for CFS1 any more .
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Re: CFS dumps me back to the desktop without notic

Postby Hagar » Wed Jun 04, 2003 10:26 am

I'm sure I mentioned this before but maybe not in this thread. There is a known conflict with some older FS98/CFS1 aircraft & WinXP. This is caused by them being animated with an early version of Aircraft Animator. They can be fixed by patching the MDL file with the MDL Repair Utility. http://www.simviation.com/fs2000utilities_gen2.htm

The conflict is with the aircraft & XP - not  a particular sim. The problem aircraft work fine in Win9x/Me. The utility has been tested for me by XP users & works for all current M$ sims except CFS3, for which it does not apply.
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