Holy Pancakes, Batman!

[Fozzer]

Its times like this, during my daily Sim Flights around the State of California, that I dread the thought of actually landing there and meeting some of these God-fearing fruit-cases.... ...!

http://web.orange.co.uk/article/quirkie ... on_pancake

Me?....

I would eat the Pancake, and put Karen Hendrickson in the Freezer... ...!

Paul.... ... ... ...!

[H]

What, pray tell, would the easterner Batman (since the term seems to reference the caped crusader of Gotham City, itself usually referenced to New York City) have to do with it? Also, Mr. Fosbery, I must contend with the fruitcake reference since there was no mention of fruit in the batter and, although you may believe otherwise, the subject is the pancake that was in the pan and not the waitress. Howsoever, although it would be moot, I must admit I could not properly refute your questioning of the grass that was used to produce the flower that has been making those pancakes -- nor the effects rendered upon those who may have partaken (we thought you more cautious of what you may be willing to eat, Mr. Fosbery).

[Fozzer]

What, pray tell, would the easterner Batman (since the term seems to reference the caped crusader of Gotham City, itself usually referenced to New York City) have to do with it? Also, Mr. Fosbery, I must contend with the fruitcake reference since there was no mention of fruit in the batter and, although you may believe otherwise, the subject is the pancake that was in the pan and not the waitress. Howsoever, although it would be moot, I must admit I could not properly refute your questioning of the grass that was used to produce the flower that has been making those pancakes -- nor the effects rendered upon those who may have partaken (we thought you more cautious of what you may be willing to eat, Mr. Fosbery).

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Quite right, @H.... ....!

I had a read through your response, (twice), and I'm afraid I couldn't see the wood for the trees!

Which reminds me...
..in your corner of the Globe...
The residents of NH are experiencing similar problems...>>> http://concord-nh.patch.com/groups/poli ... rticipants

A New Hampshire "Treety"... ...!

(Is "Old" Hampshire in England?)... ...!

Nothing to do with Pancakes, or Caped Crusaders, but my lack of interest in Mexican cuisine inhibit me from landing in California..
...and the thought of Mz Karen attempting to convert me to the ways of the God Pancake fills me with trepidation!

Roast Beef and Yorkshire Pudding, (with gravy), is my speciality.

Paul.... ... ...!

New Hampshire...Interesting!...>>> http://concord-nh.patch.com/groups/arou ... state-poll

[Webb]

Looks more like fellow Californian Charles Manson to me.

[Steve M]

You never know what's going to happen next at the Cowgirl Cafe. I'm seeing a bit of Frank Zappa on that hotcake.

[Hawkeye07]

You never know what's going to happen next at the Cowgirl Cafe. I'm seeing a bit of Frank Zappa on that hotcake.

HA-HA!!!! Good one Steve! Zappa was the first one I thought of too.

[H]

I had a read through your response, (twice), and I'm afraid I couldn't see the wood for the trees!

Actually, I'd meant to type flour, rather than flower, although the topic may have wandered my subconscious to the hair adornments of 1960s San Francisco...

Which reminds me...
..in your corner of the Globe...
The residents of NH are experiencing similar problems...>>> http://concord-nh.patch.com/groups/poli ... rticipants

A New Hampshire "Treety"... ...!

Perhaps not a precise answer to your query: the National Arbor Day city is actually Nebraska City, Nebraska. Many moons ago, in the earlier part of the 20th century, our federal gov't came up with the idea to pay midwestern farmers (of the treeless plains) to plant trees. They have what they call bluffs (I've said they're called bluffs because they can only pretend to be hills) and very few trees to stop the wind from blowing through.

There is an old joke about a midwest farmer going to the bank to apply for a farm loan. It took him over half an hour to complete the paperwork, which he then handed to the loan officer. After looking over the paperwork, the loan officer looked up at the farmer.
"Well, everything seems in order in the paperwork but there's one more need."
"Oh," asked the farmer, "What's the problem?"
"Before I can make a decision on this," informed the loan officer, "I have to see your farm."
"Heavens!" exclaimed the farmer, "That's no problem -- it should be coming by any moment now!"

Back to the present, when the gov't stopped paying for the planting of trees, many farmers cut them back down to plant more crops -- and watering equipment now sprays over the crops day and night.

(Is "Old" Hampshire in England?)... ...!

Yes, Foz -- and our capitol, Concord, was originally named Rumford; many other towns bear names of which you'd be familiar.

[Fozzer]

Ta for the reply, @H...
...always interesting...
Carrying on the subject of; "Trees"...
I am always surprised, that in certain places, there are any trees left, when everyone in the USA seems to build their houses, etc, entirely of wood, inside and outside!
The early settlers must have devastated the local countryside, (especially in desert areas), by cutting down all the trees to construct various buildings!
A Google Street Map walk through various US towns and villages still see a preponderance of wooden houses, both old and new!
Apart from the very large city centres, it is rare to find a building constructed of bricks, etc... ...!

...and...."Irrigation".... ...>>

It has always fascinated me, since the early days of Microsoft Flight Sim scenery, (FS '98-on), to see so many unusual sights of; "circular" green fields, dotted all over North America!
It took me ages, since the invention of Google Satellite Maps, to realise that they were "Irrigation" constructions, comprising of automatic rotating water spraying equipment on wheels, tethered at the centre!
They are causing great concern now, in times of drought, when the water supply is threatened, and lakes are running dry, due to excessive water extraction, (Central California).
Big problems: Soil erosion due to lack of vegetation (Logging), and excessive use of water!
Los Angeles is now a land of Concrete.... instead of a few Orange orchards!

Its terrifying when "Satellite Googling" the heavily populated areas of the USA now!...
...and all this, since the middle of the 19th Century.... ...!

Paul...exploring the scenery, and history, at low level, daily, in FSX.... ...!

[H]

[H]

Ta for the reply, @H...
...always interesting...
Carrying on the subject of; "Trees"...
I am always surprised, that in certain places, there are any trees left, when everyone in the USA seems to build their houses, etc, entirely of wood, inside and outside!

Sadly, NH is down to @ 60% forest. Not all homes are wood and much of the construction material in those that are is now pressed wood, or sawdust, along with the long-used plywood; solid wood is quite expensive. Here in our northeast, the wigwams of my early Native American ancesters were actually a type of log cabin.

The early settlers must have devastated the local countryside, (especially in desert areas), by cutting down all the trees to construct various buildings!

Even NH would take a large chunk out of your big island and the population in colonial days was much less per area than it was where you are, much less as compared to the population of today. I think the main reason horses never made an importance with Natives of this area was because foot paths were the main routes through the tree-covered rocky hills (a Nebraskan woman once posted a comment in a local paper about her visit to New England: she could tell there had been an ancient civilization in NE because of all the remains of rock walls along back roads and through the trees. What she was seeing were the lines of piled rock that had been pulled out of the ground when clearing for roads and clearings; one cleared another area so the first could be replenished and, if not recultivated soon, an area was reclaimed by forest).
I worked for a furniture manufacturer in Nebraska, mainly solid wood pews (which we gauranteed for 100 years); our rough cut wood was imported. As to devastating 'desert areas' in such a manner... how much energy did this hallucinating axeman have to be felling these imaginary trees?

[Fozzer]

As to devastating 'desert areas' in such a manner... how much energy did this hallucinating axeman have to be felling these imaginary trees?....

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Hello @H...

A typical area which always interests me is Owen's Valley in Eastern California....>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owens_Valley
(Much of my Sim Flying takes place there).
In the many Hollywood Cowboy Films, years ago, filmed in the valley, showed a distinct lack of local trees anywhere, and yet whole towns were being built in the 19th Century, using trees: Bishop, Lone Pine, and Independence!
Films and Photographs of early settlers farms, show their property built entirely of wood, house, barns, etc, and yet there is hardly a tree to be seen anywhere in the dusty landscape!
In early Photographs of Southern California, Nevada, and Arizona, there always seems to be more wooden buildings there, than there are trees to support their building!
These States were very dry, dusty, tree-less landscapes.
Was the timber imported by the new Rail system, from forested areas, North Cal, Oregon, etc?

Paul... I like trees!... ...!

[Hagar]

Speaking of trees: During a railway journey from Washington DC to NYC in 1996 I remember remarking to my brother that I'd never seen so many trees in my life.

[Fozzer]

Speaking of trees: During a railway journey from Washington DC to NYC in 1996 I remember remarking to my brother that I'd never seen so many trees in my life.

Its what fascinates me about all my years of Flight Sim exploration journeys around the USA since Flight Unlimited II, Pro Pilot '99, and FS '98 onwards, just what a variety of magnificent scenery there is there, to be explored!
From lush forests in the North, flat plains in the Central U.S, Swamps and Crocodiles in the South-East, to dry dusty deserts in the South West, and massive, snow-covered mountain ranges in between.
Such a wonderful variety of scenery in one country, I never cease to enjoy it all, every single day!

Paul..The Intrepid Explorer of places of interest!... ...!

[Fozzer]

...from Holy Pancakes, to Trees, and assorted Vegetation, and various other subjects of fascinating interest...

In one easy, thought-provoking, gradual, manoeuvre...!

Remember.....It can be done, easily, in Sim V Forums... ...!

Paul.... ... ... ...!

[H]

In the many Hollywood Cowboy Films, years ago, filmed in the valley, showed a distinct lack of local trees anywhere, and yet whole towns were being built in the 19th Century, using trees: Bishop, Lone Pine, and Independence!
Films and Photographs of early settlers farms, show their property built entirely of wood, house, barns, etc, and yet there is hardly a tree to be seen anywhere in the dusty landscape!
In early Photographs of Southern California, Nevada, and Arizona, there always seems to be more wooden buildings there, than there are trees to support their building!
These States were very dry, dusty, tree-less landscapes.
Was the timber imported by the new Rail system, from forested areas, North Cal, Oregon, etc?
Paul... I like trees!... ...!

As I indicated by my previous response, much was, and is, imported. Neither was this all transported by rail, the railways built in earnest towards the latter part of the 19th and early 20th centuries. What seems overlooked here is the extensive use of adobe in the hotter, more barren landscapes.
A related matter are the stagecoaches as seen in many westerns. The more official name of these was the Concord Coach; all were made near Concord, NH. We often assume according to what we're seeing in a show, so the belief that these coaches were a product of the old west has been falsely staged...