Missing Airliner

[SG-19]

This is just an out there thought, if MH-370 was turning around and suffered something that incapacitated the flight crew and knocked out all it's coms, is there a slim possibility that the aircraft made landfall in North West Australia. Some area's in that region are pretty much uninhabited, would anybody notice if a 777 came in under the radar???

[Speed of flight]

This is just an out there thought, if MH-370 was turning around and suffered something that incapacitated the flight crew and knocked out all it's coms, is there a slim possibility that the aircraft made landfall in North West Australia. Some area's in that region are pretty much uninhabited, would anybody notice if a 777 came in under the radar???

Highly unlikely that it wouldn't have been detected by something. Besides, Australia is awful long way from Malaysia, at least as far as an RTB goes.

I think that we're not getting the full story, and we won't for some time. Reasons:

#1. There's VOR(TAC)/DME, ADF, NDB, Nav/Com radio, RADAR, AM radio, Waypoints, LORAN, TACAN, WiFi, ACARS, satellite, celphones, and ELT (that may be all, but there could be more) for communication. Any of those haven't yet been revealed to us that they could have been used for triangulation. On this red-eye, it is highly doubtful that anyone was using their phone. However, they were still on board. Like it was said, just because it rings doesn't mean that it's not underwater, but if it were on, and if there were a way to "ping' on any of these freq's, then WTH?

#2. Nobody saw it. If they did, they probably wouldn't have thought much of just another airliner overhead, if it stayed on course. Besides, it was in the middle of the night. Doubtful anyone was planespotting at midnight. However, if it augered into the bush or the drink, it would be pinging from the ELT, which raises-

#3. Why the hell is the ELT not pinging? This should be the #1 focus of the investigation. Here's how it works:
A. A "G" switch inside the sealed, waterproof and fire-resistant plastic container is closed on impacts of 5 G's (and higher).
B. Immediately, one of them (there may be multiple units on board) will start transmitting a car alarm-type racket on 121.5 or 243.0 MHz. So far, Nothing. Even underwater, these things can ping for a week and more.
C. If it crashed, 100% this thing would be pinging. In the middle of the Pacific, it will be heard. Some weirdo aviation enthusiast is always monitoring these freq's 24 hours a day. Civil Air Patrol is one agency always listening. When I was in school, we had an ELT fall off a shelf and start pinging. Remember, though it's not an audible noise, rather it's only audible to someone active on 121.5. Anyone who has ever heard one, you know what to listen for. A member of the Civil Air Patrol flew to the campus and taxied right up to the hangar to make sure that someone turned the damned thing off. Somebody is always listening.

#4. No distress call. Nothing. Not even a *blip* on the RADAR from a GIANT B777 on some old green monochrome cold-war era RADAR screen in some Southeast China backyard or something? NOTHING? How THEE HELL can a GIANT B777 "vanish"?

I pray for the families. There's always hope. It's hard to say that it was a crash at this point because of the lack of a giant debris field somewhere. It would be huge, and somebody would have noticed it washing up on some shoreline somewhere by now. I can only hope that it's still intact, and had been stolen, and that we're already on a top-secret military operation for recovery. Don't ever give up.

[logjam]

There's a lot more to this than meets the eye. Take a look at this hot off the press. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2579955/US-officials-convinced-two-separate-communications-systems-Malaysian-jet-DELIBERATELY-shut-14-minutes-apart-emerges-aircraft-pinging-FIVE-hours-vanished-flying.html

[logjam]

It's my guess that a small group of para military activists have taken the Maldives and flown the plane to the Island of Gan. There, the passengers and crew will be offloaded and shipped to various places such as Iran, Somalia, India etc etc. Held for ransom to make the boldest statement since 911.

[Speed of flight]

One must use a fair ammount of scrutiny when reading any one particular news story. I'm all for getting it from as many sources as possible, because surely the US Govt will try to admonish itself and its interests from any responsibility. Although possible that the aircraft was still reporting condition status for hours after, doesn't that seem a little fishy? I have to believe that fearing an airplane with 239 souls aboard, and the only means of tracking it was the ACARS uplink, somebody would have said tha before day 5, and it would have been found by now.
The world needs closure in this particular incident, but I hope it comes with good news attached. My thoughts are with the families.

[Jetranger]

Ummmmmm,,,,,,,

so it ain't likey to show up on E-Bay , Huhhhhhhh ??????

Hummmmmmmmmm

[expat]

There's a lot more to this than meets the eye. Take a look at this hot off the press. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2579955/US-officials-convinced-two-separate-communications-systems-Malaysian-jet-DELIBERATELY-shut-14-minutes-apart-emerges-aircraft-pinging-FIVE-hours-vanished-flying.html

The Daily Mail, font of all..........Hype and general BS...........Not called the Daily Fail for nothing

Matt

[Fozzer]

..as an aside, relating to the aircraft...

I didn't realise that your mobile phone was capable of transmitting a regular signal which can be picked up by a satellite, and traced, even though it is switched off!

How do they do that?.... ...!

(Mine is ALWAYS switched off).

Paul...Mobile phone in silent mode?... ...!

[expat]

..as an aside, relating to the aircraft...

I didn't realise that your mobile phone was capable of transmitting a regular signal which can be picked up by a satellite, and traced, even though it is switched off!

How do they do that?.... ...!

(Mine is ALWAYS switched off).

Paul...Mobile phone in silent mode?... ...!

The only time a mobile phone is completely dead is around half an hour after the battery has been taken out..........Scary, but true. There is a lot of power retained within the electronics. I was reading a report the other day were an Iphone's movement sensors still function when the phone it turned off.

Matt

[BLAZE]

Not only that Paul,
They can even turn your cellphone into a microphone so they can hear what your saying. Even if your not using it, it could be in your pocket. I do think
it has to be switched on for that to work though. but who knows now a days!

Just somethin' I heard from the walls a while back.

[Fozzer]

..as an aside, relating to the aircraft...

I didn't realise that your mobile phone was capable of transmitting a regular signal which can be picked up by a satellite, and traced, even though it is switched off!

How do they do that?.... ...!

(Mine is ALWAYS switched off).

Paul...Mobile phone in silent mode?... ...!

The only time a mobile phone is completely dead is around half an hour after the battery has been taken out..........Scary, but true. There is a lot of power retained within the electronics. I was reading a report the other day were an Iphone's movement sensors still function when the phone it turned off.

Matt

.... .... ...!

Now that is really scary!

I'm going to bury my mobile phone in the garden...

........someone else's garden!... ...!

Paul... ...!

[Jetranger]

See how they Listen under water : http://gizmodo.com/how-the-granddaddy-of-us-recon-planes-is-helping-search-1540184964

[Bass]

Latest theory in the Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/m ... s-hijacked

[SG-19]

At the end of the day all we are going to get is more and more wild speculation. Until the aircraft shows up somewhere in whatever condition, or until somebody makes some kind of demands, or claims some sort of responsibility, we may never know and this event will become one of those mysteries left unsolved, after all do we really know what happened to Ameilia Earhardt so many years later NO we don't.

[striker]

I'm thinking crew at this stage. Maybe captain.