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Postby Brian Z » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:45 pm

Just saw in the news headlines that a Malaysian Airlines flight has gone missing, lost contact with ATC and never arrived at its destination. I believe there was 229 people aboard, the report didn't say what type the plane is.
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Re: Missing Airliner

Postby Brian Z » Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:48 pm

239 people, that is. It departed Kuala Lumpur, lost contact with Subang (never heard of it, no idea where that is), and never arrived at Beijing.
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Re: Missing Airliner

Postby Brian Z » Fri Mar 07, 2014 10:14 pm

"(CNN) -- A passenger flight carrying 239 people from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing is missing and would likely have run out of fuel, Malaysia Airlines said Saturday."

I assume that means "run out of fuel BY NOW," not that it vanished because it was probably out of fuel.
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Re: Missing Airliner

Postby Jetranger » Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:06 am

BULLITIN BREAKING NEWS :

777 Signal detected , News Link from Hanoi : http://www.china.org.cn/world/2014-03/08/content_31714878.htm



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Re: Missing Airliner

Postby Fozzer » Sat Mar 08, 2014 4:44 am

Just picked this up on the BBC News!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26492748

Bad state of affairs.

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Re: Missing Airliner

Postby Bass » Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:38 am

This is very sad news. I hope they'll find some answers.
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Re: Missing Airliner

Postby SG-19 » Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:28 am

There is much more information on this at the AVIATION HERALD web site. Check it out for some startling info on passengers allegedly on flight but are actually safe and well, both reported stolen passports recently. :?:
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Re: Missing Airliner

Postby Bass » Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:21 am

Not terrorism again :shock:
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Re: Missing Airliner

Postby ViperPilot » Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:40 pm

It's hard to get an exact picture of what's going on, mainly because there are so many conflicting reports floating around. First the erroneous report that they landed in China, then the ELT report, now the 'oil slick'... until there's concrete evidence such as debris, etc. it's all speculation at this point.
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Re: Missing Airliner

Postby Brian Z » Sat Mar 08, 2014 6:04 pm

There seems to have been 2 passengers with stolen passports aboard-- an initial report of an Austrian on board was denied by the Austrians, they say he is alive and well but his passport was stolen 2 years ago. Same deal with an Italian reported to have been on board.
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Re: Missing Airliner

Postby logjam » Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:12 pm

I have Flight Radar 24, you can track any aircraft that files a flt plan anywhere in the world. http://www.flightradar24.com/#60,15/6?& ... 0076066592 if you pay the paltry sum of $3.50, you get the full program which allows you to sit in the cockpit of any selected flight. They use Google Earth. At present I am monitoring civil air traffic around Sebastopol, but They have a saved track of the missing Malaysian B777. <<t
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Re: Missing Airliner

Postby expat » Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:14 am

Bass wrote:Not terrorism again :shock:


At this time I would doubt it basically on the grounds that terrorists love publicity and no one is claiming responsibility. Also, the term terrorist has been over the last few years hijacked by the press and Home Land Security to cover far to much of a wide base of criminal activity. Lets face it, if you attack someone with a pencil nowadays you are likely to be charged with terrorism. If this was terrorism in the tradition usage of the term, I would expect the representatives of those who performed it to have released a statement. If it was a hijacking, in the traditional usage of the term, then those people what to live and one a whole in another country. At this time I am thinking crew incapacitation due to an aircraft related problem, or a major failure of some sort, Swissair flight 111 comes to mind for example. The whole world thought that was terrorism at the time, turns out it was the inflght entertainment system of all things caused an airline to fall from the sky. I may be wrong, but I hope I am not..........otherwise flying is going to get to be more hassle that it is worth. You as a passenger are already treated like a terrorist when you enter the average airport until you have exited your destination without the adding more layers of intrusion each time something like this happens.



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Re: Missing Airliner

Postby expat » Sun Mar 09, 2014 4:18 am

logjam wrote:I have Flight Radar 24, you can track any aircraft that files a flt plan anywhere in the world. http://www.flightradar24.com/#60,15/6?& ... 0076066592 if you pay the paltry sum of $3.50, you get the full program which allows you to sit in the cockpit of any selected flight. They use Google Earth. At present I am monitoring civil air traffic around Sebastopol, but They have a saved track of the missing Malaysian B777. <<t



I have it too, but it only covers 7600 and 7700 codes that being radio and mechanical emergencies. This flight apparently did not squawk any codes. Also, as for saving the track, Flight Radar only latch onto the same signals that ATC are monitoring all the time. There is also up to a 15 minute lag in the Flightradar data flow for security reasons.

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Re: Missing Airliner

Postby Bass » Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:40 am

expat wrote:
Bass wrote:Not terrorism again :shock:


At this time I would doubt it basically on the grounds that terrorists love publicity and no one is claiming responsibility. Also, the term terrorist has been over the last few years hijacked by the press and Home Land Security to cover far to much of a wide base of criminal activity. Lets face it, if you attack someone with a pencil nowadays you are likely to be charged with terrorism. If this was terrorism in the tradition usage of the term, I would expect the representatives of those who performed it to have released a statement. If it was a hijacking, in the traditional usage of the term, then those people what to live and one a whole in another country. At this time I am thinking crew incapacitation due to an aircraft related problem, or a major failure of some sort, Swissair flight 111 comes to mind for example. The whole world thought that was terrorism at the time, turns out it was the inflght entertainment system of all things caused an airline to fall from the sky. I may be wrong, but I hope I am not..........otherwise flying is going to get to be more hassle that it is worth. You as a passenger are already treated like a terrorist when you enter the average airport until you have exited your destination without the adding more layers of intrusion each time something like this happens.



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