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Postby OldAirmail » Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:16 pm

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There are a number of people who have problems associated with coffee such as heartburn, jitters, and upset stomach. But I'm quite certain that there are many who think that there are problems, where none exist.

Understand that I'm not saying that it's all in the head. The caffeine in coffee can raise the blood pressure (to some degree) of people who have high blood pressure, even if it isn't long term.

Doctors routinely tell people DON'T DRINK COFFEE! And they believe it religiously. Coffee is bad for you.! No need to discuss it!


The fact that some people do have a problem with coffee, is multiplied many times over for those with food allergies. Recently a girl dropped dead after a Chinese meal that included peanuts or peanut products.

A friend of mine can't eat anything with tomatoes in it or the same thing would happen to him.

Should we all beware Chinese food and pizza? Millions of college kids would rather die than not eat pizza! Just kidding.



So, for what it's worth I'll get on my coffee hobby horse.

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Before I go on let say this; almost all of the studies that said coffee is bad for you, were done when most Americans smoked.

I think that we can agree that smoking may affect health.



A few months ago I saw a doctor. Now I'm far from the young Kung Fu, backpacker that I used to be. I'm even more than a few pounds overweight. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Back to the doctor.

So the young girl takes my blood pressure & temp before the doctor comes in. He looks at the numbers, and decides that HE will do it right!

After he's through taking my blood pressure again, I ask him what the numbers were. At 63 years of age it was 120 over 62. "It's a little high," he grumbles in disappointment.

By the way - 3 or 4 hours earlier I had had my usual 5 cups of strong morning coffee.





Aside from those few who do have problems with coffee, coffee is proving to actually be VERY good for you.

What started all this was another article that I bumbled into today - Coffee and Your Health.

A few excerpts from it:

"A growing body of research shows that coffee drinkers, compared to nondrinkers, are:
. .* less likely to have type 2 diabetes, Parkinson's disease, and dementia
.. * have fewer cases of certain cancers, heart rhythm problems, and strokes"


"Hu calls the data on coffee and type 2 diabetes "pretty solid," based on more than 15 published studies."


"It's probably not the caffeine, though. Based on studies of decaf coffee, “I think we can safely say that the benefits are not likely to be due to caffeine," Hu says."

So if you do have high blood pressure, drink decaf (Although I still think that decaf is the devils brew.).



""Coffee may counter several risk factors for heart attack and stroke.

First, there's the potential effect on type 2 diabetes risk. Type 2 diabetes makes heart disease and stroke more likely.


Besides that, coffee has been linked to lower risks for heart rhythm disturbances (another heart attack and stroke risk factor) in men and women, and lower risk for strokes in women."



"“For Parkinson’s disease, the data have always been very consistent: higher consumption of coffee is associated with decreased risk of Parkinson’s,” Hu tells WebMD. That seems to be due to caffeine, though exactly how that works isn't clear, Hu notes."



Remember me talking about doctors being set in their ways? "And they believe it religiously."

If it's bad for one person, it may be bad for everyone, so don't do it!



From the Harvard School of Public Heath (one of the most selective and prestigious public health schools in the world)- Ask the Expert: Coffee and Health:

They too, say "We did not find any relationship between coffee consumption and increased risk of death from any cause, death from cancer, or death from cardiovascular disease. Even people who drank up to six cups of coffee per day were at no higher risk of death.".

Later they go on to confirm recent research;

"4. Is there any research that suggests coffee may have some beneficial health effects?"

"Yes, research over the past few years suggests that coffee consumption may protect against type 2 diabetes, Parkinson’s disease, liver cancer, and liver cirrhosis. And our latest study on coffee and mortality found that people who regularly drank coffee actually had a somewhat lower risk of death from cardiovascular disease than those who rarely drank coffee...."



As to the "high blood pressure" - "We know that if people are not used to using any caffeine, and they start to use caffeine, their blood pressure goes up substantially. Within a week of caffeine consumption, however, we see that the effect is less pronounced—there is less of an increase in blood pressure."

NOTE THAT HE STATES - "are not used to using any caffeine".


And - "But if people have hypertension, and are having a hard time controlling their hypertension, they could try switching from caffeinated coffee to decaffeinated coffee, to see if it has a beneficial effect."



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Is there any other benefit of coffee?

Only if you're male - Coffee May Lower Prostate Cancer Risk

""When the researchers looked at all forms of prostate cancer, ''the highest coffee drinkers had about a 20% lower risk of developing prostate cancer...."

AND

"Coffee protected even more against the most lethal form of prostate cancer."

And for those who want to keep the caffeine intake low:

"The surprise: the risk reduction held for both regular coffee and decaf, leading the researchers to speculate it's not the caffeine providing the protection."

They also note that coffee can reduce the incident of gallstones. But who cares about gallstones.


At this point I'll bring it to an end. I need to make more coffee. :D

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Re: Java, or what makes me so happy.

Postby Apex » Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:29 pm

120/62 is a little high?? Your doctor said that? Check it out online, sounds OK to me. Maybe your doctor was a little high.
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Re: Java, or what makes me so happy.

Postby Steve M » Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:45 pm

In short form, "I like my coffee". When these monjicake dieticians tell us all about what's bad and change their minds a year or two later they never seem to say we were wrong before, but this time we are right. :liar:
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Re: Java, or what makes me so happy.

Postby OldAirmail » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:28 pm

Apex wrote:120/62 is a little high?? Your doctor said that? Check it out online, sounds OK to me. Maybe your doctor was a little high.

Doctors see a fat old man and make three assumptions.
High blood pressure
High cholesterol
Diabetic or type 2 diabetic.

I'm better than fine on all three. It really irritates the doctors. :lol: :lol:



I don't think that my BP is high at all. But that's one of those things where the definition of "normal" keep changing.

I'll skip the story, but back in 1971 or 2 I was taught to take blood pressure.

We were told that as a general rule, "normal" systolic pressure (the higher number) in older people was 100, plus the patients' age, minus 20.

For someone 40 years old that works out like this 100+40=140. 140-20=120 Normal.

For someone 65 years old that works out like this 100+65=165, 165-20=145. Normal.


I've long known that it was changed, but haven't bothered to check it out. Till now. Wiki time.

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So technically, I am a "little" high on the systolic.

At 60 plus years, 120 isn't bad. And the diastolic is the more important of the two.



Something will get me in the end. Hopefully not a plane crash! :shock:
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Re: Java, or what makes me so happy.

Postby OldAirmail » Fri Jan 10, 2014 8:47 pm

Steve M wrote:In short form, "I like my coffee". When these monjicake dieticians tell us all about what's bad and change their minds a year or two later they never seem to say we were wrong before, but this time we are right. :liar:

Frankly, I believe that happiness is 55% of good health. Enjoy a few cups of coffee every day and you're now up to 65%. :D


Let yourself get tangled up in knots worrying and you'll go downhill, health wise, faster than a happy guy the same age.

But The End is the most important part.

A 60 year old guy who suddenly drops dead is far better off than an 90 year old who worries every day about one thing or another until the moment that he drops.

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Re: Java, or what makes me so happy.

Postby OldAirmail » Sun Jan 25, 2015 10:02 am

There have been other news stories over the past year, but I haven't been pushing the point that, unless you know that you have problem with coffee, coffee is good for you.

Don't believe it? Read everything posted above, or Google Coffee and health.



OK, here's one more reason. From Forbes.

Study: Coffee May Reduce Risk Of Melanoma

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Re: Java, or what makes me so happy.

Postby Apex » Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:09 pm

I have no opinion re: coffee, only drink one (yep, one) cup per week (yep, per week), and that only because the accountant across the hall makes good coffee, but I only see him once a week.

BUT I do have a very personal opinion about something else which, if not, shall we say, is harmful, is much overdone in a lot of stuff we eat and drink: SUGAR or the equivalent. Over a year ago I started reading food labels, looking mainly for this very thing, and have eliminated a lot of it from my intake. And here's two examples. I won't mention any names, but they're out there: Sports Drink A has sugar, Sports Drink B does not. In my opinion, Sports Drink B tastes better. A lot better. And then there's this: Almost all pasta products have 2 grams of sugar per cup. Read the labels. I now see that one very big pasta maker company has reduced ALL their pasta products to 1 gram per cup. It tastes the same to me.

I weigh 150 pds at 5'10", age 66. Holding steady there. Over a year ago I weighed 175 pds. When I was 25ish, it was 120 pds. OK, so I have a history of being thin. Fine by me. But the point is simple: Read the labels, and make your own personal choices. One study says this, another will say just the opposite. Maybe moderation is best.

The first step on a weight loss plan is to change your sugar intake. The weight loss commercials don't and won't tell you this. The diabetes commercials also don't mention this. You don't have to cut it all out, just cut it down somewhat.

And now if I may be excused, I need a beer. All this talk makes me thirsty. Uhh, OK, well, I'll skip reading the label this time, maybe next time.

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Re: Java, or what makes me so happy.

Postby OldAirmail » Sun Jan 25, 2015 1:47 pm

I'm not a booze drinker, but I just may have to alter that condition. :D

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As to sugar, I don't use it any more. Gave it about 4-5 years ago.

Haven't lost an ounce. :cry:

I mostly eat low carb/whole grain foods. Don't feel any different. :confusion-shrug:

Guess I'll have another coffee.
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Re: Java, or what makes me so happy.

Postby OldAirmail » Sun Feb 08, 2015 4:33 pm

BACK TO COFFEE!

Two different studies are saying that just drinking four to five cups of coffee a day may give a woman UP TO a 20% chance of avoiding endometrial cancer.

Now I ain't no lady, but I think that I'll have another cup of coffee anyway. :D



From the Cancer Network

Drinking coffee multiple times a day may decrease the risk of endometrial cancer in women, according to a new study.


"In one of the studies, women who drank three cups of coffee per day—about 750 grams—had a 19% lower risk...."

"Data from a different study cohort found that those who drank four cups of coffee per day—about 1,000 grams—had an 18% lower risk...."
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Re: Java, or what makes me so happy.

Postby Fozzer » Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:50 pm

Me?

Age: 81
Height 5' 7"
Weight: 154 Lbs (Daily check)
Body Mass Index: 24

Blood pressure: 118/70 - 130/ 75 (Daily check)
Heart rate: 60-64 BPM.

Meals: Breakfast, Dinner, Tea, and Supper...every day!
No Sugar. No Salt. No Sex.
Tea or Coffee.
Vino: Occasional small glass of red wine..(thins the blood).

Outlook:.....Happy as a Sandboy!.... :dance: ...!

Paul....distant memories of Sex... :lol: .... :lol: ....!
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Re: Java, or what makes me so happy.

Postby OldAirmail » Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:07 pm

Fozzer wrote:Me?

Age: 81
Height 5' 7"
Weight: 154 Lbs (Daily check)
Body Mass Index: 24

Blood pressure: 118/70 - 130/ 75 (Daily check)
Heart rate: 60-64 BPM.

Meals: Breakfast, Dinner, Tea, and Supper...every day!
No Sugar. No Salt. No Sex.
Tea or Coffee.
Vino: Occasional small glass of red wine..(thins the blood).

Outlook:.....Happy as a Sandboy!.... :dance: ...!

Paul....distant memories of Sex... :lol: .... :lol: ....!

I've VERY carefully researched your condition, and find that you may benefit from the same process that Bruce Jenner is undertaking.

If you do undertake the same changes, PLEASE DO NOT POST PICTURES! :lol:

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Re: Java, or what makes me so happy.

Postby Fozzer » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:31 am

Bruce Jenner?.... :shock: ....!

Nope....

Born a Bloke....

...will remain a proper Bloke...>>>>

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Paul.... :D ...!
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Re: Java, or what makes me so happy.

Postby OldAirmail » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:06 am

But just think! If you get a few ....ummm... changes..... Ummm....done then coffee will kelp you live to be 65. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Java, or what makes me so happy.

Postby Fozzer » Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:21 am

OldAirmail wrote:But just think! If you get a few ....ummm... changes..... Ummm....done then coffee will help you live to be 65. :lol: :lol: :lol:


I would dearly love to be a 65-year-old youngster again!.... :dance: ...!

...but only in the age..... :dance: .....NOT at the time!... :think: ....!

Things can be much nicer in the present time!... :D ...!

Paul.... :mrgreen: ..!

P.S...by the way...what's the weather like in Java?
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Re: Java, or what makes me so happy.

Postby OldAirmail » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:48 pm

As good as it gets, sunny & warm. :D

A bit too humid for me, though.

Weather in Surabaya, East Java, Indonesia

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