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Postby ozzy72 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:39 am

An interesting development, looks like they're getting serious State-side!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25552825
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Re: Drone sites

Postby Fozzer » Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:46 am

I don't know... :o ...

Fly your own chain-saw weapon down the high street?.... :shock: ...!

Scary!

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Re: Drone sites

Postby ViperPilot » Tue Dec 31, 2013 2:46 pm

I wonder why they didn't choose Colorado as a Test Site? Probably because of this...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/0 ... 72769.html

Besides... starting tomorrow, we've got other things to deal with.

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Re: Drone sites

Postby Fozzer » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:08 pm

Its bad enough; "Law Enforcement Officers :doh: ", etc, playing around with them, to amuse themselves... :roll: ....

The thing I really worry about, are brain-deficient fruit-cases, legally gaining access and ownership of these type of hi-tech devices and being a danger to the public in the same way that laser light pens, (designed for use on educational blackboards, etc), are now being used to blind Pilots and bring down aircraft!

High-tech devices and Idiots really don't mix...trust me...!


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Re: Drone sites

Postby expat » Tue Dec 31, 2013 4:35 pm

"Pilots will be notified through routine announcements about where drones are being flown."


So in other words, when it all goes wrong the answer will be, but we told you where they will be................... :roll:

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Re: Drone sites

Postby Steve M » Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:28 pm

There is no stopping them, I think. The police here already have a few. Fitted with hi res cams and heat detectors, they are practicing with them during the growing seasons and searching for some sort of agriculture that they deem unsuitable.
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Re: Drone sites

Postby pegger » Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:50 pm

Steve M wrote:There is no stopping them


Absolutely they will not be stopped. They are already in widespread use throughout the military in all nations, law enforcement, and private commercial applications. I am a UAV pilot myself. There are lots of hoops to jump through to "legally" fly one for commercial purposes. But for the purposes our company uses them for, they are a new technology offering our clientele a new and better product than ever before. The FAA knows it is coming, and government can't be getting in the way of industry. So you have what you have here...The FAA authorizing test locations so that the equipment can be tested, developed, and improved. I operate in Canada btw...so the FAA concerns don't really bother me. Transport Canada has already accepted that they are flying, and has worked extremely close to the UAV operators to develop best practices and limitations on how they are used in civil airspace.

The nay-sayers who cry about the security problems, the privacy issues, the "idiots" who fly them...well low and behold there are just as many concerns with full sized manned aircraft, and no shortage of idiots who operate them either. So the aviation industry must now adapt to the changing technology, and why shouldn't they? There's nothing to fear with this technology. It is just another aircraft, and if treated as such and operated under the nations laws of aviation, it can find a harmonious place safely in the skies.

expat wrote:So in other words, when it all goes wrong the answer will be, but we told you where they will be


Every pilot knows what this is...it's a NOTAM. No different that if there is a military area in use, or a rocket launch, or a large unlighted tower, or a runway with shorter than declared length available...If a pilot is smart, he/she knows to check the notams, and for his/her own safety stay clear of the area or take appropriate actions to deal with the "known" hazard.
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Re: Drone sites

Postby expat » Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:15 am

pegger wrote:
Steve M wrote:
expat wrote:So in other words, when it all goes wrong the answer will be, but we told you where they will be


Every pilot knows what this is...it's a NOTAM. No different that if there is a military area in use, or a rocket launch, or a large unlighted tower, or a runway with shorter than declared length available...If a pilot is smart, he/she knows to check the notams, and for his/her own safety stay clear of the area or take appropriate actions to deal with the "known" hazard.



NOTAM's are all well and good, but they are not fool proof. There have been many,many accidents where a NOTAM was supposedly issued and did not filter down the line. There are also so many of them, accidents have also shown that pilots are only acting upon the ones that directly effect them. Operating in the area may be considered to be not having a direct effect by some crews. The NOTAM system is old and to an extent not as effective as it once was. There are 1000's issued daily. The system is no longer capable of providing the safety it once could. It is somewhat of an aviation dinosaur and should be updated and or replaced, however don't ask me with what........

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