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Re: New FSX problem

Postby Speed of flight » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:22 pm

After a long debate with myself about how far to go with this repair, it is done. I've completely uninstalled every airplane, scenery package, utility and FSX itself, and manually deleted all the leftover files, and then run a defrag.

My biggest regret is losing the thousands if hours and landings. All the airplanes can be reinstalled easy enough, but the records...

I've tried a few different things suggested here, but nothing worked. So here we are.

Thank you for all your help. Sure gave it a good try, but apparently, it needed to be done.

Thanks again.
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Re: New FSX problem

Postby Fozzer » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:46 am

...so we still don't know, until you re-install FSX and its all various programs again, and run it with various FSX/Hardware settings, whether the problem was a hardware or a software fault, or a combination of both?
Whatever it was, something was causing it!

Time will tell... ;) ...!

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Re: New FSX problem

Postby Bass » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:49 am

Thumbs up for you Speed ;)
Here's what i allways do. Checking fsx everytime i install anything, then you know what is making trouble.
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Re: New FSX problem

Postby Speed of flight » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:23 am

Ok, a clean install after having done all that preparation, and it still happens. I now must assume that it is a driver issue. Even with FSX by itself, no extra anything, it still does it.
Now I can submit a ticket to AMD and wait for them to address the problem in a newer driver.

The old card didn't do this, but this one is 2x as powerful, if I can get it to cut it out!
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Re: New FSX problem

Postby Bass » Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:16 am

Bad news Speed.
Now, i'm more certain that you got a hw conflict!!

What puzzles me is, if other games dont show problems?

Try to take out your gpu, set your cpu to default, then make a restart.
Then close down and replace your vidio card.

At first, use the driver that came with the card.

A conflict could also be between ram-cpu-gpu! Take your choice.....

This it not easy if not sitting close to the pc, you know ;)
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Re: New FSX problem

Postby garymbuska » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:34 am

Boy talk about bad luck, I for one do not like AMD or Radion video cards as I have read in more than one place that they can have issues with some games especially Microsoft games Why that is I have no idea. But both myself and my son have always used NVIDIA cards and between my self and my son we play all kinds of games and have never had any issues.
But I would have to agree with others here that this is a card issue the fact that it does not have issues with other games does not mean anything as all games are different as to how they work. Most other games use open GL which is why they are working.
Microsoft uses DIRECT X and does not use open GL to my knowledge.
One other thought are you sure you are using DIRECT X and not open GL? Also make sure that the box that says Direct X preview is not checked.
Try running a program called DXDIAG and see if it shows any problems.
Just open your run command and key DXDIAG it will run a report on your video cards and it will let you know if there is a problem with any part of your card.
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Re: New FSX problem

Postby Speed of flight » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:20 pm

All the games I mess with use DX. I've only ever had good luck with ATI, now AMD cards.

I started out with the X700 pro, 256MB DDR3. Went to the HD 2600, to the 4870, then the 6870, and now the 7870.

Nothing wrong with NVidia, but I did get the 8800GTS one time, long ago, but I wasn't really impressed with it.

The issue I'm having could be a conflict with the RAM, not really sure. I found the 13.2 driver lastnight, and I'm goin to try it out tonight. If it is a driver issue, I think going back 2 revisions ought to clear it up. It is directly related to this card, however. When I put the old one in, it works fine.
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Re: New FSX problem

Postby Speed of flight » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:23 am

Well I wish I'd have thought of it sooner.
My problem seems to be resolved. Solution:

Downloaded/installed AMD 13.2 driver. Just flew the MD-11F into LAX by hand, with all the traffic and scenery settings at max. No problems. No weird, seemingly sentient polygons obscuring the runway on final. It felt great. Albeit, I'm running AMD. Even at near 5.0 GHz, it still doesn't hold 30 FPS all the way to the ground, but a healthy 25. That's ok with me.

So, all it really ever needed was a correction in the software.

Thanks to all of you with your prompt and frequent replies. For some time, I've wondered if I wasn't blacklisted, or something. Sincerely.

So, I'm going flying. Got to get those stats back!

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Re: New FSX problem

Postby Bass » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:21 am

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Re: New FSX problem

Postby garymbuska » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:04 am

Speed of flight wrote:Well I wish I'd have thought of it sooner.
My problem seems to be resolved. Solution:

Downloaded/installed AMD 13.2 driver. Just flew the MD-11F into LAX by hand, with all the traffic and scenery settings at max. No problems. No weird, seemingly sentient polygons obscuring the runway on final. It felt great. Albeit, I'm running AMD. Even at near 5.0 GHz, it still doesn't hold 30 FPS all the way to the ground, but a healthy 25. That's ok with me.

So, all it really ever needed was a correction in the software.

Thanks to all of you with your prompt and frequent replies. For some time, I've wondered if I wasn't blacklisted, or something. Sincerely.

So, I'm going flying. Got to get those stats back!

Faster than a speeding freighter!


Glad to see you got it fixed, One thing to keep in mind is just because there is a updated driver it does not always mean it will work for your card.
Some I started doing was before I update my Video card driver I set a restore point making it easier to go back.

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Re: New FSX problem

Postby Speed of flight » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:40 pm

I usually don't update drivers at all, if the one I'm using works;)
The one that comes on the disc in the box is usually the best bet, but even that didn't work.

AMD has a bad habit about moving their older drivers to an archive that takes a google search to find. Now all my stuff seems to work great.
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Re: New FSX problem

Postby Emma8 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:52 am

Speed of flight wrote:Hello, all. Question/issue:
Put in a new video card and PSU over this. I think this is "artifacting"? Or maybe a driver problem?
So, Ill be flying along, and suddenly a texture goes away. For example, a good-sized square of ocean will suddenly turn plain grey with no waves, anything. Happens on the ground, over water, anywhere.
Also, over ground, a problem with random spires and towers extending into space. They seem to originate from existing structures, or even from a random point, and even sometimes it will apply a seemingly random texture to it.
I'll upload some screens. It sounds weird, I know, but I don't have a means to explain it.
I have wrestled with cooling, which I think is not the issue. I'm using the H-100i, and it's set to blow like a turbofan when the CPU gets to 45*C.
I have fans everywhere in this rig and it can blow pictures around on a wall adjacent to the tower. it's like a tornado in there, and noisy to boot. Nothing seems warm, let alone hot in there. Voltage tweaks, speed changes, RAM timing changes, nothing I've thought of seems to help.
I put in an Asus 7870 and a 1200W PSU. Its O/C'd to 4.85 GHz, but it does this at the stock settings of 4.0. I don't have a clue where to go with this problem now.

A problem with random spires and towers extending into space.
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