Windows Arrrrgh-t

[expat]

This is not a Windows 8 question, but a "general discussion" about it, well more like a rant............It is Pants with a capital "P"
I had to buy a new lappy for general use at home. In the kitchen we have a butcher block and a lappy has always lived on the end. We use it for quick Googling, Skype etc. The old one kept overheating (had it serviced, heat paste replaced but that did nothing), so I went to town and bought a new lappy. Got it home and started it up to be met by Windows 8. Now I had read about Windows 8, both negative and positive. I had not gone out of my way to read anything about it in preparation to buy a new computer, just general interest. I had not formed any opinion and was willing to give it a go..........

Well, I have tried and I hate it. Either I am way too stupid to be let any ware near a computer, but I had to Google how to put the dam computer to sleep. Also since when did computer programs become "Apps"????????????? I loaded a game for one of my boys, Eurotruck and then spent a period of time that was filled with expletives trying to find it. It turns out that it is now classed as an App. Then, the hide the mouse in a corner to be able to go either to this Start page, or to the App page. Every dam program, sorry App seems to want a link to something called an Xbox......Not much good when you have a Wii. Then, my wife asks me to set up Skype. So I pulled my hair out for ten minutes as it now requires you to log in twice....? Once to get into Skype and then again to get into your own account. Then, the dam program...sorry App has changed its look so much, I am dreading when the old version no longer works, my aged parents will (particularly my dad) will drop kick his laptop of the top of the nearest multi story car park.......Can any one tell me how to delete a conversation. With the old version, after I had finished complaining about my mother-in-law to my best friend I could delete the conversation before my good lady wife had seen it, but now, no matter what I do, the bad words are still on the screen. Oh and then, after shrinking Skype down, where did it go. Down to the task bar, was toooooooo simple. Again I had to Google this, if you don't know, they shrink down to another corner, the top left..............
And if you think you cell/mobile/handy comes full of bloatware, then you aint seen nothing until you fire up Windows 8



Matt

[ftldave]

Rather than Arrrrgh-t, get some training. Yep, the T word. I've been working with computers for more years than I care to remember, know my way around them enough to make my living at it, and I know already that I'd quickly be lost in Windows 8 without some training, be it Windows 8 for Dummies or some other good book, an online course like they have at Lynda.com, or some other structured, informative introduction on how to use it. That means more than just using Google. There is a desktop in Win8, there are multiple ways to get a Start button back on it, etc., etc. I expect "Windows Blue" or whatever follows Win8 will be better and certainly more user-friendly. Microsoft always gets it right on the second version of a major operating system release, not the first (Win95-Win98, Win2000-XP, Vista-Win7). We'll all do better if we do some study about Windows 8 and all its quirks before we try to do important stuff with it.

[ozzy72]

Windows 8 is pants and you're not the most computer literate of my mates Matt. Not a happy combination methinks

[Fozzer]

Never fear, Matt... ...

I'm still trying to figure the ins and outs of Windows 7, after many years of enjoying the wonderful simplicity of Windows XP Pro!

How I miss the old Windows XP Control Panel display, and its various Folders... ...!

Win 7 may run faster than Win XP, but I am always baffled by that accursed Win 7 Control Panel layout when it comes to; "doing things"!... ...!

Each versions of Windows becomes more "fancy" with each version, and therefore more unnecessarily complicated!...(Win '95 + Win '98 were "simple"..)..!

Paul...Win 7 displaying in "Classic Mode"... ...!

[Bass]

Hehe.....
I read you expat. New adventures with "Apsssss"

@ftldave you forgot Millennium. Another stupid show

[Jetranger]

Well, Ya'll can rant about silly Windows all ya want,,,,,

I knew rthis would happen as the years went by and decades and somebody else thinks , hey this is neat, when it really isn't,, kinda like that Windows Vista that they thought was so great,,, and wasn't ,,,,,,,,

Don't worry tho,,,, I've created & developed a Program that'll knock the socks off any windows program,,,

yip - its called "Screens",,,,

my theory is, if ya gotta have Windows - - don't ya gotta have Screens too ??????

Yip,,, my Program,, Screens,, keeps the Bugs out !!!

soon as I get that out on the market,,,, i'll release my Shades program,,,,

gonna have windows & screens, ya gotta have Shades to keep the sun out, don't ya,,,,, ???

[expat]

Rather than Arrrrgh-t, get some training. Yep, the T word. I've been working with computers for more years than I care to remember, know my way around them enough to make my living at it, and I know already that I'd quickly be lost in Windows 8 without some training, be it Windows 8 for Dummies or some other good book, an online course like they have at Lynda.com, or some other structured, informative introduction on how to use it. That means more than just using Google. There is a desktop in Win8, there are multiple ways to get a Start button back on it, etc., etc. I expect "Windows Blue" or whatever follows Win8 will be better and certainly more user-friendly. Microsoft always gets it right on the second version of a major operating system release, not the first (Win95-Win98, Win2000-XP, Vista-Win7). We'll all do better if we do some study about Windows 8 and all its quirks before we try to do important stuff with it.

I have to disagree (to an extent), Since windows 95 there has been no instruction book delivered with any Windows version. That tells me that it is or should be simple enough for the average person to use from the get go. And I would not say that the Windows help files that are put in the computer are of much good at all. They only fit the glove that that MS puts on the table. Each and every version of Windows has been a adjustment for want of better words of the previous version, thus requiring only a little bit of thinking. Windows 8 is a totally new package that looks different, acts differently and displays differently and yet MS throw it on the table and say "well get on with it". I assure you if you have driven a standard automatic car and get into my automatic BMW, you will be reaching for the drivers book after 10 seconds as it is very different (as my father-in-law found out when he came around to borrow it for the first time). This is a product that is sold to the unwashed masses and as such needs to be on a level of said masses and not on that of an IT professional.

Windows 8 is pants and you're not the most computer literate of my mates Matt. Not a happy combination methinks

You may well have a valid point there Mark, although to my credit I have not erased any hard drives lately.......

Matt

[ozzy72]

And I am deeply grateful for that Matt

[expat]

And I am deeply grateful for that Matt

You are not the only one..........my wife is rather pleased too......

Matt

[ftldave]

I have to disagree (to an extent), Since windows 95 there has been no instruction book delivered with any Windows version. That tells me that it is or should be simple enough for the average person to use from the get go.

You're quite right, it should be simple enough ... but Win8 is not, and I think Microsoft really screwed the pooch with it and have to fix many things in the follow-on. Part of the big change, of course, is to try to get Windows into mobile devices, but that effort has clearly been detrimental to those of us who use desktop pc's for work and fun. I suggested training because that's what it's going to take, regardless of how we think Win8 should be. It is what it is. I just helped a poor gal whose Win8 laptop was locked into Safe Mode boot. Try finding where that setting is without any training (or Google help).

No, I didn't mention Windows Millennium in my original post ... so worthless that it will always be forgettable. ME really stood for "Mistake Edition". Didn't Bill Gates wife-to-be have something to do with that? Oh, no, that was Microsoft Bob.

[CrashII]

Install W7. Problem solved.