New Image Size Limits

[Fly2e]

its time to move with the times.

Exactly!

Posted by: NickN Posted on: Yesterday at 10:45pm
One thing 1024 will not allow... fudged shots because I can tell when 800x shots are tinkered with on a 1920x screen but with 1024 the resolution will give even the best photoshop tricks away every time. Also, reducing images hides defects and blurs so that means we just raised the bar on quality screenshots. No way to hide those pesky defects if you are not reducing from a native resolution of 1024x and the hardware isn't keeping up.

Like Nick said, raised the bar!

Time to move on and move forward. Simviation has really coma a long way and the Graphic Gallery in general has come a long way. Between posting screenshots of aircraft, editing & composites, the photo section, etc... this will really allow us to display our work on a grander scale.
So what, you need to scroll. At first I did not like it but I am getting used to it. If you like the image so much, download to your PC then open it up and take a lookie!

We need to move with the times...

and finally we do not have to hear... Compression killed my shot"

[NickN]

Running at 1280 by 1024 and had to scroll. Mind you, I should be upgrading fairly soon... I think I'll just keep my screenshots at 800 wide as I was doing before.

Strange, im at the same resolution and i didnt need too scroll..

At 1280x1024 you should not need to scroll unless your monitor is not set up right, the browser window is not at 100%, or, you replaced your browser with some knock-off that redefines the borders.

Most modern monitors are native at 1280x1024 now.

1024x768 is old news and 800x600 is a dinosaur

Some people run 1024x768 because they do not know their monitor has the ability to run 1280x1024.

This change does not mean everyone has to use 1024, all it means is there are choices which are fair for everyone.

As Dave said, the

[mhoffman50]

I'm running at 1900x1200 in game so I will still need to reduce by a lot.  Some of my originals start at 8meg.  It's interesting to note the variety of resolutions that people run the sim at.  This change will definitely allow us to improve the quality of the shots.

[Mictheslik]

rubbish

its time to move with the times. I have been on high res for 6 years and widescreen for a few as well. Its time to upgrade the experience

and 150KB is the same for a 1024x768 image as 100K is for 800x600. It allows those who are on 4:3 and 16:9 to be able to post the same scale and have the same quality. The 100K increase means the thread weight is practically the same.






No problem with compression there. @1024x640 I probably could have shaved off another 20 and got it close to 110 which means those who go x768 will have the extra they need and 150Kb is more than enough.


It gives people choices in size and compression.

Thank you pete, a good move, especially since this forum has a lot of screenshot and artistic activity.

I agree with you that it gives people a choice in weight and size but the fact that I had to scroll through your message about 6 times just to read to text annoys the hell out of me. Keep the shots at 800 wide and scrolling is hardly needed. Don't forget that the majority of the users here don't use widescreen monitors that can handle the resolution. And I'm not going to buy one in the near future too.

+1....

Nick, you tell us to get with the times, but the fact of the matter is the majority of people have monitors which can't go up to those high resolutions, and many won't be willing to upgrade them until they really need upgrading, which they dont.....1280x960 is the resolution at which things appear best on my screen and that is sufficient for almost everything. I certainly won't be buying a new monitor until this one breaks.

.mic

[Triple_7]

Like the idea of upping the file size and post limit.  But I'm joining the resolution issue people.  The highest this ancient monitor can go is 1024x768 which is where its set...the things about 8-10 years old :-/

I have to scroll for 800x600 shots.  Text doesn't seem to be a problem anymore...used to be till FF updated last.  Now only the shot runs off the screen and not the text.  

At least theres a limit...but its making those shots even harder to view for quite a few of us.  Theres another forum I frequent where theres no limits...Theres some really great looking pictures from the 10% I can see of them.  I think some of those shots there would probably take a monitor the size of my desk to view in their entirety

Its not to big of a deal...Just a lot less shots I'll really take time to view as I hate having to scroll.  Eventually a new monitor...but its probably quite a ways off :-/

[spitfire boy]

There could be problems I feel in the monthly contest if you have some people capable of entering a viable 1024x768 shot and others not so easily. Are the contest restrictions going to be kept at 800 wide - not sure on this one.

[MOUSY]

Totally agree with both... Granted scrolling is a nuisance... even for me... but in the essence of it all SimV is all about all-round great quality... a bit of scrolling will become customary soon enough...

So much for my method of making those jaggies a bit less apparent though... ... I might just stick to 800 and 150Ks myself...  8-)

[simonmd]

Upping the 'weight' of a pic is a great idea, so many 800x600 pics of mine that were over the old 100k limit were spoiled by compression, increasing this is very wise.

However, sorry SimV team but for me and everyone else (and it seems there is a fair number) who runs 1024x768 screen resolution, the increase in res' is very bad news.

What the hell is the point of a lovely uncompressed pic if we can only see 60% of it????

It is quite simply not fair to penalise people who don't have the resources to buy a large screen when it is the SimV forum's choice of forum software that blocks us from being able to see full size pics over 700 wide. Remember, this is a worldwide forum and not all of us are lucky enough to live in wealthy areas and can afford such luxurys.

Actualy, my screen will go up to 1280x1024 but I choose not to as things will get far too fiddly and difficult to use. I find this res' quite comfortable on my 17" screen. But I have reasonable eyesight, have you not considered those who are unlucky enough to have poor eyesight? Why are you discriminating against them?

EVERY other internet forum i'm a member of (and there are quite a few, four FS sites, two train sim sites and a couple of classic car forums, one of which i'm an administrator on) can display 1024x768 pics whole, never mind 800x600.

As i've said before in two other recent threads, thanks to the monthly comps' and the exccellent additional forums like StudioV, screenshots are a major part of this site. To actualy restrict their availability further just for 'the sake of progress' just doesn't make sence.

It looks like this is the end for posting and looking at screenshots on SimV for myself and maybe many others like me who will not be able to actively participate anymore. A great shame.

Come on SimV, take a moment to pause and think this through. Get the forum software sorted first before trying to blindly leap into the future and leaving half of us behind. PLEASE!

[61_OTU]

It is quite simply not fair to penalise people who don't have the resources to buy a large screen when it is the SimV forum's choice of forum software that blocks us from being able to see full size pics over 700 wide. Remember, this is a worldwide forum and not all of us are lucky enough to live in wealthy areas and can afford such luxurys.

Hang on guys....it's one thing to comment on this and bring your views to the attention of Pete, it's another thing entirely to suggest that he's being 'unfair' by making this available.

It's available, use it or don't. If the majority of people use 1024x768, then the majority of people will still post 800x600 (as will I). People will want to see their own shots without scrolling, so that's how they'll post.

To start saying that this is going to be 'unfair', and that it's down to 'SimV's choice of forum software'.......come on. This isn't the playground. You come here because you like it, I'm sure that there are greater hardships to overcome in this world.

I've said this before, SimV isn't some sort of democracy, we're guests with a common interest. We can make suggestions, but don't think that your presence gives you any kind of rights.

I think the point has been made now people, let's not whinge on for the sake of it.

Now......I'm more interested why my 1280x1024 ratio screen is still scrolling shots when it shouldn't need to, might have to PM Nick  :-?  ;)

[Mazza]

Yay bigger sizes... and longer uplaods times... who cares(not me!)

And i'm cool with res.

YMMB Running 1024*768 8-)

Going bigger with new card soon

[simonmd]

It's available, use it or don't. If the majority of people use 1024x768, then the majority of people will still post 800x600 (as will I). People will want to see their own shots without scrolling, so that's how they'll post.

Fair enough BUT there will be a great number who WILL use the larger res'. These pictures will not be able to be enjoyed by the rest of us.

As for seeing my own shots, that's not the point. I can see my own shots very well at home on my PC thank you very much!! What I want to still be able to do is to view and apreciate OTHER peoples pictures.

To start saying that this is going to be 'unfair', and that it's down to 'SimV's choice of forum software'.......come on. This isn't the playground. You come here because you like it

Yes I do, however if this change comes into effect, I fear that that will change from 'I Do' to 'I Did'. My point is that this will SPOIL the SimV experience for a great many users. You can feel free to patronise me if you wish but that will not change the fact that I and many other SimV members feel very strongly about this.

I hold Dave, Pete and the rest of the SimV team in the highest regard. They have built a woldwide recognised and respected community here that we all enjoy. I'm not slagging them off or trying to cause trouble, I'M TRYING TO HELP because I CARE about it.

If no one said anything and let this go through, what would happen after when a great deal of members stop posting pics or leaving comments on other's work? They would then ask, 'if this was a problem, how come no body said anything?'

The simple fact remains,

This forum cannot display full size images over 700 wide on any standard 1024x768 monitor. As a HUGE part of SimV is based arround screenshots and SS editing, this needs to be a addressed before making even larger pics available.

This is for the benifit of SimV and it's members as a whole.

[pete]

Thanks for all the feedback. Actually we did this in response to a post in the forums -

It is an OPTION

It is 'keeping up with the times'

I fully appreciate not everyone will have the screens to view the wide shots without scrolling. On one of my main PC's I don't either - however the Yabb software is an evolutionary thing that we have been using - generally with few problems - for years.

The great thing about this forum software is that - like FS - it is open source & worked on by dozens of enthusiasts worldwide.

I am sure that the view window can be widened. I have had a priority list to work through as well as real world demands but as soon as I can I will look into this & improve whatever is possible.

[61_OTU]

As for seeing my own shots, that's not the point. I can see my own shots very well at home on my PC thank you very much!! What I want to still be able to do is to view and apreciate OTHER peoples pictures.

I think you miss my point. I also cannot view shots over 800 wide without scrolling, therefore I am unlikely to post any shots at more than 800 wide. I was extrapolating this to the 'majority of users who use 1024x768' and suggesting that therefore they are also unlikely to post pics wider than 800px. Ergo, the majority of pics posted will be no wider than 800.

Thanks for the response Pete, it'd be great if it can be fixed.

Steve

[Hagar]

and finally we do not have to hear... Compression killed my shot"  ;)

Wish I could believe that but I'm not confident it will make any difference. That silly statement has become a tradition when posting images on this forum. If I see it once more it will be too many.

[Souichiro]

After having tried the new limits for a bit..... I must say, I like!!


Allowing the resolution to be higher Isn't really important for me thoughit can be usefull for cropped images.

The 150K means I can upload my screens at about 95% quality in Irfanview instead of 90% and I'm quite happy with that!

The main thing I like is the 150K and 600K max in a thread.... Quality over Quantity!

( now who would have imagined me ever saying that!)( especially in my early days )