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Communist; who out there hates 'em???

Postby squall12990 » Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:36 pm

Is there any one out there who doesn't like communism???  I don't and I would like to hear teh opinions of others on why communism is either god of bad.
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Re: Communist; who out there hates 'em???

Postby Jared » Wed Feb 25, 2004 9:59 pm

hmm I can see this thread being locked up tighter than a maximumsecurity prison in the enar future..

no comment on the topic either..;-)
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Postby Scorpiоn » Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:09 pm

Yep.

Politics, though not banned, is highly discouraged at Simviation, and even when discussing it, it should be treated like thin ice.  I suggest rewriting your post more dedicately, if this post hasn't been locked by then. ;)
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Re: Communist; who out there hates 'em???

Postby Felix/FFDS » Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:39 pm

It can be a very volatile subject, but first of all, one would have to DEFINE "communism" ... Are you talking Soviet Communism (Leninism, Trotskyism, Stalinism, etc.), Chinese/Maoist Communism?, or are you talking about "pure" Marxism?

For practical purposes, there are no "pure" "-isms".  One can argue Chinese Communism, but that's developing into an interesting version with capitalistic tendencies.  Even Castroism has an undercurrent of capitalism.

Are you talking of "communism"  as an economic philosophy vs "capitalism"  or the political "communism"?


Just trying to define what the topic should be is a mess in itself.
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Re: Communist; who out there hates 'em???

Postby Cvrt7.62Ghst » Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:03 pm

#1: I HATE COMMUNISTS!!!
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Re: Communist; who out there hates 'em???

Postby Felix/FFDS » Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:41 pm

[quote]#1: I HATE COMMUNISTS!!!
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Re: Communist; who out there hates 'em???

Postby Cvrt7.62Ghst » Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:22 am

Hmmm................I remember something, what was it.................Oh yes!: WWII! ;)
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Re: Communist; who out there hates 'em???

Postby BFMF » Thu Feb 26, 2004 12:48 am

Neither Communist Russia or Communist China never started WW2. Yes, they were involved.

Did China turn communist before or after WW2 started?

I may be wrong, but were Russia & China our allies during WW2? I know we weren't enemies atleast, cuz we helped both out during WW2

btw, I don't think this topic has to be locked if everyone behaves accordingly, imo ;)
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Re: Communist; who out there hates 'em???

Postby Smoke2much » Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:01 am

This is just the sort of subject that encourages mature reasoned debate amongst the members here with such varied backgrounds, geo-political world views and experiences.

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Re: Communist; who out there hates 'em???

Postby RichieB16 » Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:31 am

As far as pure communism-in my opinion it is the perfect and ideal system, in theory.  Basically the idea (really simplified) is you use only what you need and the ret you share.  At it's core, its a great idea.  The problem is that people are greedy and therefore the systen doesn't work.  So, in my opinion-communism the perfect system for a perfect society, unfortunately we don't have a perfect society.

Did that make sense?  lol.

Did China turn communist before or after WW2 started?


After.  Their change to communism happened in either 1948 or 49, I can't remember which one for sure.
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Re: Communist; who out there hates 'em???

Postby Polynomial » Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:51 am

Capatalism - minority of people control majority of money and politics

Communism - majority of people control everything

in my opinion - communism would NEVER work.  Most people cannot manage their own finances and lives, let alone being allowed to run a country.  Everything would soon be broke, and the country would be in a mess.  I prefer to have rich peole control the money because they actually know what they are doing with it.  And politicians although not always squeaky clean actually know what they are doing when they run a country state city etc.

in theory communism makes sense, but practically it'd never work.  SOMEONE has to be in power, SOMEONE will always be richer or better off.  And as someone stated already, Communist regimes nowadays have Capatilist tendencies which proves pure communism doesnt work.
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Re: Communist; who out there hates 'em???

Postby Hagar » Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:19 am

I like to think that I don't hate anybody. I might dislike a few people but hate is too strong a word. Can't say I've met a "communist" & wouldn't recognise one if I saw him/her. I can't see how it's possible to hate someone you haven't met or know nothing about. ::)

It seems that McCarthyism is still alive & well in some quarters. :o
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Re: Communist; who out there hates 'em???

Postby Craig. » Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:32 am

basically what richie said, as its almost dead one.
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Re: Communist; who out there hates 'em???

Postby loomex » Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:52 am

Funny to think that 20 years ago I would have said that I didnt trust any body that was a communist. That is what was drilled into my young 20 year old brain by the military. Now my doctor is from Russia and we have had some good talks about this subjuct
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Re: Communist; who out there hates 'em???

Postby Felix/FFDS » Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:21 am


It seems that McCarthyism is still alive & well in some quarters. :o


Actually, "McCarthyism" is a term generated by the "left".  Joe McCarthy  initiated hearings (after an order to the effect from President Truman) to root out people that could be risks to national security that were employed in the government.  His "targets"  were legitimate national security risks, which were subsequently exposed as such.   The "Red Scare"  of a soviet communist behind every bush, was, in my opinion, overblown by a politicized media of the time.

From what I've read, McCarthy's hearings targeted Soviet/Russian agents in the government.  You could be a "communist" - just not in the government.
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