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Re: I Finally Flew An Aircraft!!

Postby an-225 » Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:50 am

Congrats - now you know what many of us felt when we went for out first flying lessons.  8-) It is a great feeling, and you will be hungry for more flights soon. ;)
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Re: I Finally Flew An Aircraft!!

Postby Clipper » Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:10 am

Rotty, I had done an in the hanger pre-flight with her the previous week and she obviously thought I knew my way around a cockpit. She actually didn't last too long at the school. The guys at my flying club flipped out when they heard what happened. Not sure, but possibly one of them told the flight school owner....
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Re: I Finally Flew An Aircraft!!

Postby Fly2e » Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:28 am

Posted by: Brett_Henderson Posted on: Yesterday at 9:31pm
Did your "you-know-what" pucker up a bit when you switched tanks ?
I do remember switching over tanks when we were setting up to land. What was the reason? Was it to ensure a "full tank" on approach?

[quote]In the full panel shot... 1900rpm and 83kias..2200msl ... That's about 1100 feet higher than pattern altitude so you weren't slowing for an approach. Just taking it easy on the engine (or fuel budget) ?
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Re: I Finally Flew An Aircraft!!

Postby Flying Trucker » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:15 pm

Good afternoon all... :)

Sorry got in a little late on this Dave...busy week with the weather and all.   ;)

Congratulations and I hope you do obtain your Private Pilots Licence.  Hope you get much satisfaction and enjoyment out of aviating and share that love of flying with the rest of your family.

That is what life is all about, being able to share something you love with someone you love.   ;)  Who knows, maybe down the road you will be paying for your spouses flying lessons or your childrens.   :)

Oh my Dave, I think I would forget about boating now, time to look for a part time job, down the road I can see you paying for several Private Pilot Licences.   ;D

Congratulations and all the best.

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Re: I Finally Flew An Aircraft!!

Postby Brett_Henderson » Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:11 pm

I do remember switching over tanks when we were setting up to land. What was the reason? Was it to ensure a "full tank" on approach?



Yes.. fullest tank. I have know idea what the tank differential was at take off... but if they were both full.. the rule I fly  by is.. Switch tanks after the climb, and then every twenty minutes. You'll burn about 18lbs of fuel in 20 minutes. In no way whatsoever can you trust the gauges, so you gotta have some sort of cycle. The longer the cycle, the bigger the difference if you miss an interval. That's why I like 20 minutes ('cause you WILL forget one). With a 1/2hour cycle, you can be as much as 50lbs out of balance. No big deal, and you'll probably feel the bank and see the DG moving.  Much more than 50 lbs and when you're slow and descending, it'll feel like a crosswind.. LOL

If I remember correctly, we had just leveled off. I too had thought that the speed should have been more when climbing as if I pulled back a bit, the airspeed obviously decreased close to 80. If you notice in the shot, his hand is on the throttle as he was increasing it.


Actually, 80kias is a good cruise-climb speed.  I think Vy (best rate of climb) is about 78kias in a Cruiser. What's confusing though, is that you'd be at 1900rpm. Every pilot has his own way of doing it.. and there's no way he'd want to overwhelm you with info on your intro flight. Transition from climb to level flight should not have a power reduction until the airspeed picks up to around 100kias.. and even then, cruise power is 2400rpm ~105kias.  Only thing I can figure is that you weren't going anywhere, so he might have had fuel saving on his mind.

I also remember that right after we leveled out, we adjusted the compass to the magnetic compass because as you said, they are off. I remember because I did it. He said something about when climbing that the gauge works off vacuum and needs to be checked once we were level and cruising. I do remember turning the dial to match the magnetic due East.


It works off vacuum all the time (as does the attitude indicator). And it's always drifting a little. But yes, especially after any time spent with other than level pitch. The DG's function is to give you reference while making turns, or climbing, or decending, or accelerating or decelerating. All of those conditions cause the compass to read erroneously. It's best to fly by the compass anyway..  the DG is important during instrument flight. One of the first things you'll learn in ground school, is how to execute compass turns (knowing how to mentally correct for compass errors). The two main methods are: "U.N.O.S."  (undershoot north, overshoot south, proportional to the desired rollout heading), and actually timing the turn (that's where that nifty turn-coordinator comes in handy). A standard rate turn will take you 360 begrees every two minutes. Simple math and you can time the turn to hit your new heading.

There (whew)(sorry..I get carried away)... now you'll impress the heck out of him on your first lesson  :)


Edit:  MSFS does an EXCELLENT job simulating compass errors. You can practice them over and over and REALLY impress him)..
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Re: I Finally Flew An Aircraft!!

Postby Hagar » Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:29 pm

now you'll impress the heck out of him on your first lesson  :)

I'm not so sure that's a good idea. If I were the instructor it wouldn't impress me. In my experience as both pupil & teacher it's best for the student to act dumb & let the instructor/teacher do the teaching their way. This applies to everything in life, not just flying.
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Re: I Finally Flew An Aircraft!!

Postby Brett_Henderson » Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:45 pm

Oh gosh.. I wouldn't imply cockiness as much as enthusiasm. Showing  some insight and knowledge wouldn't interfere with a teaching method.

I learned to fly over 20 years ago, but every instructor I've had since, was impressed with knowledge I brought to things like instrument and commercial training. "Makes my job easier" was the universal attitude.

I think it shows initiative, and eagerness (and I've been a CFI)..
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Re: I Finally Flew An Aircraft!!

Postby Hagar » Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:52 pm

No offence intended Brett. Just my opinion, based on my own experiences in life. It all depends on the teacher I suppose.
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Re: I Finally Flew An Aircraft!!

Postby Brett_Henderson » Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:58 pm

None taken  :)  Like I said in that post..  my OWN enthusiasm can get me carried away....   :D

Take what's relevant, Dave.. and yes, sometimes questioning your teacher's method is healthy..

Anyway.. please feel free to pick my brain as the training progresses.
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Re: I Finally Flew An Aircraft!!

Postby Fly2e » Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:13 pm

Thanks Brett! I appreciate it! Don't know how "fast" I will be able to do this. I have allot of things going on in my professional career that need attention right now. At least I got a taste of it, am registered with the school and now have the opportunity to head over to the airport, take a flight maybe here or there and as I accumulate hours, maybe focus more on it then. I need to take care of something first as it is a priority.

Once again, thanks so much for the insight and the interest and believe me, if I feel I need to ask any questions, I know where to come!  ;)

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