its progress

[Hagar]

I'm not qualified to comment on the advantages (or not) of conventional film over digital. It really depends on what you wish to do. I'm simply pointing out that it's possible to hone your skills with any type of camera.

[Craig.]

Thank you for your input doug..
Like i said before. I do use it alot, just not always with pictures that are to the interest of people here. While i do like the ease of the digital camera, i also like the challenge of the SLR, and the fact that you have hard copies of the pictures. While digital pictures are great in the fact there is no cost involved after purchase, theres always the risk that you could loose those in a crash and if you havent made copies then your stuffed:)
thank you for your comments as always Doug

[Hagar]

Thank you for your input doug..
Like i said before. I do use it alot, just not always with pictures that are to the interest of people here. While i do like the ease of the digital camera, i also like the challenge of the SLR, and the fact that you have hard copies of the pictures. While digital pictures are great in the fact there is no cost involved after purchase, theres always the risk that you could loose those in a crash and if you havent made copies then your stuffed:)
thank you for your comments as always Doug

You're welcome Craig. As always I'm just saying what I think. There is no risk of losing images if you back them up to CD or even floppy disk. If you want prints there are many excellent photo-quality printers on the market at ridiculously low prices. The results with modern instant drying photo-quality paper are equally as good as you would get by using traditional methods. The advantage is that you can edit the images first before printing them & only print the ones you want to keep. Printing photos is expensive on ink but once you have the printer I think it compares favourably with the traditional methods.

[Craig.]

all very good points:) and i am glad you do say what your thinking, it helps alot with making better steps to improvement in cases such as photos and it means cant become confused as to what your saying as easy. Well most of the time

Seriously though, i like to think in my case they both compliment each other. I like my digital camera for ease of use and the fact taking it with me isnt more than a bulging pocket, of course remembering to recharge the batteries before you leave is always a good idea
But i also like the freedom and challenge i get from the SLR, i like being able to experiment with the differant shutter speeds types of film and light levels. but its disadvantage is its size and weight, hauling it around everywhere isnt an option and only useful when your going somewhere specific like an airshow.

Thanks again

[Iroquois]

SLR are the best. My Pentax KM has taken some excellent shots over the years. My dad use to do amature photography in the 80's. He took an excellent picture of Epcot Centre that looks like it came from a magazine. It's on a slide wheel in my basement somewhere but I'll try and find it for you guys. Got a nice scanner that does slides.

I guess the argument over 35mm vs digital cameras is a lot like the argument over LP Records vs CDs. I find that digital doesn't take a cyrstal clear sharp image. I also find that my Dad's digital seems to take very dark images for some reason. For example, the shots I took at CZBA the last weekend were originally very dark dispite the fact that it was a bright sunny day. I had to use edit them with Photohouse to make them look half decent.

For example, her are two shots of the C172.
This first one is the stock image cropped and resized to meet forum rules.


And here's the image I posted before. Still kind of dark. I brightened it and sharpened it up.

[Craig.]

My dad took tons of slides in canada, they were absolutly amazing, sadly the machine broke and i dont know where the slides were put. if i ever find them i may invest in the scanner for them. Great photos mate

[Mr. Bones]

[quote]which one?? also remember one thing and its the same thing thats put me off the idea of buying one for now, buying a DSLR doesnt mean you will get awsome shots right away, you have to do more post processing work because it doesnt usually have automatic processing work a normal

[Craig.]

Cool, So your going to fairford this year then? i might be going there depending on whats happening at the time.
Cant wait to see the photos.

[Mr. Bones]

and that's not everything...i'm going by plane this year!!! we land and depart at RAF Fairford!!! can't wait to see a few hundred aircraft from a bird's eye view! i also avoid long queues at the entrance. if you see a Fokker 70 landing from KLM Cityhopper and you see a (nice) guy with a camera descending...you know it's me

[Hagar]

I look forward to seeing your shots Mr. Bones. The proof will be in the pudding. If they're anything like the ones on this page I don't think you will be disappointed. http://www.militaryairshows.co.uk/dslr.htm
Some useful tips on airshow photography there too.

I see no point in comparing the average automatic "point & shoot" digital camera with a standard SLR or even a DSLR. They're as different as chalk & cheese. From what I can make out the DSLR is much the same as the SLR & does have some advantages. In the end it all comes down to your skill at using it. One chap I chatted to at Old Warden recently had a Nikon DSLR that's worth more than my car. Unfortunately I forget the type. He also had a bag full of lenses to go with it. This chap has been a photographer for many years & is serious about his hobby. He told me that it's far better than anything he's used before & he doesn't even have a PC.

[Mr. Bones]

thanks for the link Hagar...i already knew the site but thanks anyway!

here's a link to a database of photos taken with a 300D...all of them at Schiphol: http://m4d.demon.nl/~wouter/aviation/

this guy didn't edit his shots so they came out of the camera like this...of course with some photoshop, you can improve the result alot!  ;)

[Mr. Bones]

and one for Craig: http://m4d.demon.nl/~wouter/aviation/04 ... G_0003.JPG (look at the engine exhaust behind the tail)  8)

[Craig.]

niiiiice:)