Airbus vs. Boeing.....and interesting read...

[steve s]

I ran across this recently, and although it may be old news to many of you by now, I offer it FYI.....

Subject: Airbus = Crap...... It's Boeing or not going!

Below is from a commercial pilot

"I never flew the Airbus series of airliners, and I have always believed
that Boeing built the best airliners in the world.

[expat]

I ran across this recently, and although it may be old news to many of you by now, I offer it FYI.....

Subject: Airbus = Crap...... It's Boeing or not going!

Below is from a commercial pilot

"I never flew the Airbus series of airliners

Never flown the Airbus, but........................

Nice to mention that the 727 and 737-300/400 have throttle cables, but forgetting that all modern Boeing aircraft have EEC engine control and would have been in the same boat (excuse he pun) as the Boeing. Typical Airbus bashing by Boeing fans full of what ifs. Well there are no ifs, Airbus scored a touch down that day, get used to it and move on (the author not you SteveS)

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The Airbus is a real pile of s_ _ _.

[tcco94]

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The Airbus is a real pile of s_ _ _.

[steve s]

My father send me this blog.  He is a retired commercial pilot.  He had no comments on them at all, although I'm sure he has plenty of knowledgable opinions based on experience.  He just thought as I do that it was interesting reading.  It does not relect my opinions or knowledge of either aircraft or systems.

[expat]

[quote]My father send me this blog.

[specter177]

Speaking of Airbus Vs. Boeing, there is a really good book called "Boeing Versus Airbus" by John Newhouse, ISBN 978-1-4000-4336-1. Picked it up when I went on a Boeing factory tour in Everett a couple years ago. It offers an un-biased view of the Airbus-Boeing rivalry from the 80's to now.

[OVERLORD_CHRIS]

Never flown the Airbus, but........................

Nice to mention that the 727 and 737-300/400 have throttle cables, but forgetting that all modern Boeing aircraft have EEC engine control and would have been in the same boat (excuse he pun) as the Boeing. Typical Airbus bashing by Boeing fans full of what ifs. Well there are no ifs, Airbus scored a touch down that day, get used to it and move on (the author not you SteveS)

I was going to mention what you said, but to piggy back:

When taking off, that is the worst time for any thing to go wrong, you loose a motor, or damage the 2nd in this case from what was said, you are going to go down alot easier then if you are landing and loose a motor, where you can keep your speed constant.

Any pilot that compares a new aircraft to an older 727/737, has been out the loop for a long time, Boeing takes pride in there fly by wire computer controlled planes that save weight by not have thousands of pounds of cables and pulleys stretching through out the aircraft.

I just think the pilot did a job, and lucky for them the pilot was: Ex USAF, Part of the Crash Team Board, Accident prevention member, and part of the comity for predicting and preventing future incidents.

Unless they were in a plane with more engines, and it was 100% confirmed that the other motors did not ingest birds, then more then likely the same thing would have happen, just like the E-3 that flew into a flock of birds in Alaska on September 22, 1995:

Headquarters Pacific Air Forces determined the crash resulted from the aircraft's two left-wing engines ingesting several Canada geese. According to accident investigator, engine number two lost all power and engine number one experienced severe damage after ingesting the geese shortly after takeoff. The resulting loss of thrust rendered the Airborne Warning and Control System aircraft uncontrollable. After a slow, left climbing turn, the aircraft pitched downward and crashed. Human error on the part of the crew was not a factor.

The rest of the story:
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/5464/

[Hagar]

This made me think of the BA 777 that had a lucky escape at Heathrow last year. As I recall they lost thrust on both engines at the same time while on final approach.

[OVERLORD_CHRIS]

This made me think of the BA 777 that had a lucky escape at Heathrow last year. As I recall they lost thrust on both engines at the same time while on final approach.

Oh YEah I forgot about that!! On Landing the motors would not go above 30% or 40% throttle, they just froze up, no mater what the pilot did, and landed short of the runway. Hell those 2 stories just proved how a Boeing would have just flown straight over to the runway and landed like those pilots on the blog though.

[Hagar]

This made me think of the BA 777 that had a lucky escape at Heathrow last year. As I recall they lost thrust on both engines at the same time while on final approach.

Oh YEah I forgot about that!! On Landing the motors would not go above 30% or 40% throttle, they just froze up, no mater what the pilot did, and landed short of the runway. Hell those 2 stories just proved how a Boeing would have just flown straight over to the runway and landed like those pilots on the blog though.

I'm not confident of that. The 777 just made it over the perimeter fence & could just as easily have crashed on the housing estate below the flight path or the main road on the other side of the fence. Either would undoubtedly have caused a lot of casualties. Not much the pilots could do about it.

[OVERLORD_CHRIS]

This made me think of the BA 777 that had a lucky escape at Heathrow last year. As I recall they lost thrust on both engines at the same time while on final approach.

Oh YEah I forgot about that!! On Landing the motors would not go above 30% or 40% throttle, they just froze up, no mater what the pilot did, and landed short of the runway. Hell those 2 stories just proved how a Boeing would have just flown straight over to the runway and landed like those pilots on the blog though.

I'm not confident of that. The 777 just made it over the perimeter fence & could just as easily have crashed on the housing estate below the flight path or the main road on the other side of the fence. Either would undoubtedly have caused a lot of casualties. Not much the pilots could do about it.

[Hagar]

No No, you misunderstood, I was being sarcastic towered the original blog who said had it been a Boeing, it would have let the pilot land it, because Boeing would let the pilot have full controlled over the throttles.

Ah yes. Sorry. I completely missed your point. Sarcasm is not always easy to spot on forums.