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Blind pilot guided to land by RAF

Postby Hagar » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:07 am

Just heard this on BBC Radio news. Fantastic! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/7715345.stm

A pilot who suddenly went blind while flying his plane at 15,000ft (4,572m) was guided in to land by an RAF plane.

A plane was scrambled from the RAF base at Linton-on-Ouse in North Yorkshire to help stricken pilot Jim O'Neill, 65.

He was flying a two-seater Cessna aircraft from Prestwick airport in Scotland to Colchester, Essex, when he suffered a stroke and lost his sight.

The RAF plane flew alongside Mr O'Neill and the pilot shepherded him to the base with instructions over the radio.

Mr O'Neill, who has 18 years' flying experience, was overhead at RAF Leeming in Northallerton when he encountered difficulty and sent a mayday alert last Friday.

Operations commanding officer at RAF Linton-on-Ouse, Wing Cdr Andy Hynd, said: "At first he believed he was being blinded by sunlight because he had difficulty seeing his instruments and so he declared an emergency.

"He was handed over to us from Leeming and when we spoke to him he said he was happy to continue flying.

"However, air traffic control noticed his aircraft was descending and turning and he was asked again whether he wanted to continue at which point he said no."

Despite air traffic controllers' efforts, Mr O'Neill was unable to land the plane at nearby Full Sutton Airfield near York and was directed to RAF Linton-on-Ouse.

Mr Hynd said: "He still couldn't see the runway here and he was starting to get distressed so we thought it was best to send a plane to him."

'Fantastic effort'

Wing Cdr Paul Gerrard, chief flying instructor, flew his Tucano T1 about 50m next to the Cessna to bring Mr O'Neill safely down.

Mr Hynd said: "He used his voice to guide him [Mr O'Neill] down by telling him to turn left and right, to lower the plane and to do his pre-landing checks.

"At very short range he still couldn't see the runway and it was only at the last minute that he could. He landed about halfway down and came to a halt just at the end.

"The RAF routinely practises shepherding but we are usually shepherding lost aircraft, we are not used to shepherding blind pilots, which is what makes this amazing.

"It was a fantastic team effort from all those involved and we're proud that we could get him to the ground safely."

Mr O'Neill was checked over by RAF medics before being transferred to Queen's Hospital in Romford, Essex where he is believed to be seriously ill.
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Re:  Blind pilot guided to land by RAF

Postby ozzy72 » Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:34 am

I was just about to post this Doug, amazing effort 8-)
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Postby expat » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:21 am

I was just about to post this Doug, amazing effort 8-)


I was silly enough to think I would be the first to post this ::)

Outstanding effort by all those involved. A few beers owed I think.

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Re:  Blind pilot guided to land by RAF

Postby C » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:24 am

Well done to all involved. :)
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Re:  Blind pilot guided to land by RAF

Postby Hagar » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:42 am

Well done indeed! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

According to the report it happened last Friday. A nice bit of free publicity for the RAF for a change. ;)
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Re:  Blind pilot guided to land by RAF

Postby MWISimmer » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:02 pm

That's superb, I can't imagine what must have been going through his mind (and the RAF instructor's for that matter).

A very cool head was kept by both.

They deserve a medal.
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Postby FsNovice » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:16 pm


They deserve a medal.

Second that, pretty impressive flying and instructing by the instructing, and how the hell both him and the ATC kept their cool i shall never know. I guess knowing that they couldn't let the guy crash must have spurred them on.
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Re:  Blind pilot guided to land by RAF

Postby expat » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:23 pm

Not wanting to take anything away from this story, but when we read further it transpires that, that blind is not quite the right word, but it makes a really good headline and some good press for the RAF.

"At first he believed he was being blinded by sunlight because he had difficulty seeing his instruments and so he declared an emergency. At very short range he still couldn't see the runway and it was only at the last minute that he could. He landed about halfway down and came to a halt just at the end."

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Re:  Blind pilot guided to land by RAF

Postby Hagar » Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:08 pm

Not wanting to take anything away from this story, but when we read further it transpires that, that blind is not quite the right word, but it makes a really good headline and some good press for the RAF.

"At first he believed he was being blinded by sunlight because he had difficulty seeing his instruments and so he declared an emergency. At very short range he still couldn't see the runway and it was only at the last minute that he could. He landed about halfway down and came to a halt just at the end."

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According to the report the pilot had a stroke & is now seriously ill in hospital. From personal experience (both my parents suffered strokes) I know that a stroke can seriously affect the victim's vision. I think he is extremely lucky to be alive & hope he makes a good recovery.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7716314.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7716662.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7716703.stm
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Postby expat » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:07 pm

Not wanting to take anything away from this story, but when we read further it transpires that, that blind is not quite the right word, but it makes a really good headline and some good press for the RAF.

"At first he believed he was being blinded by sunlight because he had difficulty seeing his instruments and so he declared an emergency. At very short range he still couldn't see the runway and it was only at the last minute that he could. He landed about halfway down and came to a halt just at the end."

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According to the report the pilot had a stroke & is now seriously ill in hospital. From personal experience (both my parents suffered strokes) I know that a stroke can seriously affect the victim's vision. I think he is extremely lucky to be alive & hope he makes a good recovery.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7716314.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7716662.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7716703.stm


I don't take anything away from what happened here. A stroke is no small matter. My grandfather had one. His sight was fine, but his perspective was way out of sync. The talk down audio had had me glued. It is just that I am always a little skeptical of media reports. Just lately, whether it is the Sunday Sport or The telegraph, a good headline sells.

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Re:  Blind pilot guided to land by RAF

Postby C » Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:00 pm

PS - I don't think the Beeb got the altitude right in the article. I doubt he'd have been at 15000ft - certainly not in a 2 seater Cessna.
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Postby C » Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:07 pm

Not wanting to take anything away from this story, but when we read further it transpires that, that blind is not quite the right word, but it makes a really good headline and some good press for the RAF.

"At first he believed he was being blinded by sunlight because he had difficulty seeing his instruments and so he declared an emergency. At very short range he still couldn't see the runway and it was only at the last minute that he could. He landed about halfway down and came to a halt just at the end."

Matt

According to the report the pilot had a stroke & is now seriously ill in hospital. From personal experience (both my parents suffered strokes) I know that a stroke can seriously affect the victim's vision. I think he is extremely lucky to be alive & hope he makes a good recovery.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7716314.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7716662.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7716703.stm


Its now appears there may have been a significant amount of "journalistic fog" in the reporting of the incident. The BBC have now removed the statement that he is still "seriously ill", and it appears it may well have been severe sun induced temporary blindness.
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Re:  Blind pilot guided to land by RAF

Postby Hagar » Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:21 pm

Its now appears there may have been a significant amount of "journalistic fog" in the reporting of the incident. The BBC have now removed the statement that he is still "seriously ill", and it appears it may well have been severe sun induced temporary blindness.

I'm not surprised. Like you & Matt I don't trust the news media to get anything right except the date & they have been known to get that wrong. ::)

PS - I don't think the Beeb got the altitude right in the article. I doubt he'd have been at 15000ft - certainly not in a 2 seater Cessna.

The latest update says 5,500 feet. I think Mr O'Neil's son said 15,000 feet in the video interview. He doesn't appear to know a lot about flying. It looks like a 4-seater Cessna to me. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/7715345.stm

I think we're all being a tad pedantic as the general public really couldn't care less. Whatever the truth of it I still think it was a bloody good show. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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Re:  Blind pilot guided to land by RAF

Postby MWISimmer » Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:40 pm

I make you right there Doug, heroism all round.. Regardless of the circumstances.
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Re:  Blind pilot guided to land by RAF

Postby Brando14100 » Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:57 pm

Wow. That's all I can say. When are they gonna' start putting braile on the flight controls (is it already there)?

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