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Back off and abort

Postby NicksFXHouse » Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:41 pm

Hey mods... if I posted this in the wrong place... sorry


http://www.stupidvideos.us/video.aspx/I ... %20videos/


There IS such a thing a ABORT, especially on water takeoff


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Re: Back off and abort

Postby vololiberista » Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:46 pm

As they say "A good landing is one you walk away from!"
I've never heard of "swimming away from a landing"!!!!!
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Re: Back off and abort

Postby beefhole » Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:30 pm

There IS such a thing a ABORT, especially on water takeoff

Well, noone told him.
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Re: Back off and abort

Postby NicksFXHouse » Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:43 pm

As they say "A good landing is one you walk away from!"
I've never heard of "swimming away from a landing"!!!!!
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That was a takeoff!  

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Re: Back off and abort

Postby ashaman » Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:48 pm

Seems a classic case of misjudgment of the take-off run distance.

At least it doesn't seem like there were victims, though the plane better be covered by a good insurance. :P
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Re: Back off and abort

Postby garymbuska » Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:25 pm

I wonder if he was on the wrong waterway  ;D :D ;) :)
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Postby Joe_D » Thu Aug 31, 2006 9:31 pm

Yes, it was a take off run for thw benefit of the camera crew.

There  were some power lines out of  camere view. The pilot, in an attempt to avoid them dipped a wing pontoon on the water and caused the resulting mishap.

The Goose was eventually repaired and flown out. :)
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Re: Back off and abort

Postby aReyoUIn86 » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:53 am

For start a take off roll should be on a straight line, not after all those turns! That looks more like a landing to me then a take off
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Re: Back off and abort

Postby expat » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:59 am

Here is the full story of that take off:

WILD GOOSE
Back in the "olden days", when Tamarindo was a small village and everyone
knew everyone else, filmmaker Bruce Brown chose the town to shoot a
segment for his new movie "Endless Summer II". The sequel to the famous
surfing movie "Endless Summer" came a generation laterthan the original,
and, of course, featured new stars: Wingnut and Pat O'Connor, together
with one of the originals, Robert August.

Living in Flamingo at that time was a pilot, "Hoot" Gibson, who had spent
several years obtaining his commercial license in Costa Rica. Hoot owned a
vintage Grumman Goose seaplane, relic of World War II, and intended to
charter it for tours. Given the state of the roads then - and not much
improved since - a seaplane seemed the way to go to explore a country
surrounded by sea.

Robert August had a fine idea: To charter the Goose to fly the film crew
and its surfers around the coasts of Costa Rica, Nicaragua and Panama,
looking for unknown or little-known surf spots to shoot their sequences.
Apart from being much faster to cover more area, the aircraft was highly
superior to a boat, which could only examine the waves from the "back", or
ocean, side whereas a 'plane could approach from the landward side, too.
"Endless Summer II" was Hoot's first charter in Costa Rica, and was to
last two weeks.

On the first day, the Goose took off from the airport. The plan was to fly
out to Cabo Velas, return along Playa Grande and land in the bay near
Tamarindo estuary, where the crew would board, then to take off on their
adventures.

The camera crew set up on Tamarindo Beach, ready to shoot the approach and
landing for the movie. But instead of flying from Cabo Velas, approaching
Tamarindo from the west along the Playa Grande coastline, the big Grumman
twin came roaring down the river from the north, putting on a show for the
camera. On board were the pilot, "Hoot" Gibson, and local resident and
California board shaper, the late Mike "Doc" Diffenderfer.

Approaching Tamarindo, the pilot started a right turn to follow the
estuary, but his height was insufficient. Presumably he suddenly became
aware of the power lines which cross the river at that point, and was
forced to fly below them. The right pontoon caught the water, and jerked
the aircraft to the right. Overcorrecting, the pilot put the left float
into the water, and the aircraft swerved to that side.

Gibson applied full take-off power to get the aircraft back into the air,
but it careered from the river onto the beach, where it ground-looped and
came to a stop. The whole incident was filmed, and eventually became part
of the movie.

"At this point," said August, "we saw fuel spraying from the aircraft onto
the sand, and there was a distinct danger of a fire or explosion. As we
approached the 'plane, the doors opened and Hoot and Doc jumped out,
fortunately both unhurt. From a nearby beach house, a resident came
running, carrying a big club and shouting at the pilot that he was in a
national park, and polluting the beach. We managed to calm him down, and
the incident ended at that point."

Eyewitness Dean Butterfield adds: "I was up the hill looking over the
estuary, watching Hoot Gibson fly the plane through it. He was doing touch
and go's in the estuary, I was wondering why he felt he had to do that in
there. As he came out to the mouth I think he saw the cable stretched
across at the last minute and tried to duck under it. He caught the wing
tip and stuffed it into the sand.

By the time I got down to it, there were a lot of people around. I took
pictures and made a T-shirt from one."

Officials of Minae also attended the site very shortly after the accident,
and charged the pilot with flying in a protected zone (Parque Marina las
Baulas). As a result, Gibson's license, obtained over several years, was
withdrawn after one brief flight.

"As it happened, the club-bearing resident did quite well out of the
crash." August continues. "The plane suffered damage to a wing and one of
the propellers, and parts for a vintage seaplane are not procured at your
local NAPA store, so the aircraft had to sit for a year or so while
repairs were made. During this time the aircraft was parked in the
resident's back garden, he and his family being paid for caretaker duty
against theft or vandalism. I believe someone of the family slept in their
garden ornament every night."

The day after the accident, filming continued with a scene where supposed
crash passengers August, Wingnut and Pat O'Connor climb cheerfully from
the Goose, carrying their boards, and run off to the surf.

Seriously concerned that accident investigators or other officials might
confiscate the film shot up to that point, Director Bruce Brown hired a
friend to hop a Sansa flight to San Jos
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Re: Back off and abort

Postby vololiberista » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:28 am

That's a scary story!!!! The moral of which is don't show off in your a/c unless you have practised it over and over again.
There are old pilots and bold pilots but never will you meet old bold pilots.
Whilst on that link I saw this clip of a typical FS9 landing  ;D
http://www.stupidvideos.us/video.aspx/I ... %20videos/

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Re: Back off and abort

Postby cheesegrater » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:34 am

How can someone call that a bad landing? Let's see you try.
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Re: Back off and abort

Postby expat » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:42 am

How can someone call that a bad landing? Let's see you try.


Ok, you are a Pax in the back with a window seat and you see the runway width ways at that hight. Rule one, don't scare the pax Sh*tless. And I don't need to try, I am not a 747 captain on 100,000 big ones a year.

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Re: Back off and abort

Postby ashaman » Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:52 am

That was a landing in Kai Tak and seen that airport's peculiarities, that landing was perfect.

You can say that in Kai tak, if you managed to land damaging nothing, yours was a perfectly executed landing. :P
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Re: Back off and abort

Postby ozzy72 » Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:24 am

I'm amazed the plane held together :o
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Re: Back off and abort

Postby RitterKreuz » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:09 am

one thing about an abort on the water...

cut the power will slow you but and then what do you do about brakes? deaplanes drift on the water.
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