Auto Land Please

[tropicana]

Is there a Utility or Feature in FS2002 that if u press a button or key will land the aircraft for you at the closest airport.This is as i am not very good at lining my aircraft up for landing i just want to be able to fly in the genral direction of an airport and press a key and ***POOF*** Its lined up and landed

[packercolinl]

Umm! Er! No!! But perservere and you will find a great deal of pleasure actually doing all that yourself

[visitor]

Trop'

You just have to learn!!
Keep trying, and one day you do
a "good  one" and  after a while
you won't even think about it,
you'll just do from instinct!!
Take the leasons, Take the leasons!!!

We are her to help, but you have to;
Take the leasons!!!!!


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[WebbPA]

If there aren't utilities at SimV that will do it there are some at AVSim that claim to autoland.

They won't just turn around and go to the closest airport and land for you but they (claim that they) will land you once you're reasonably on line and tuned in to your chosen airport's ILS frequency.

Go to AVSim.com and search the FS2002 library for "auto land gauge" (make sure auto land is 2 words).

I have never used one so I can't vouch for their effectiveness.

[Scottler]

I seem to recall reading a similar question somewhere, and everyone had the same answer.  No, there isn't anything.

But to me, what's the point of that?  It would be like being hungry and having someone sit across the table from you eating a big block of lasagna, but telling you it's good.  (Not very satisfying, is it?)

Start with the smaller planes and learn how to do some navigation...once you learn that and learn ILS, you'll have no problems landing.

[WebbPA]

I agree, Scott.  But I gave up FS2000 as too complicated.  Someone gave me FS2002 as a gift and kept asking me how I was doing with it.  I didn't have the heart to say it was even more complicated so I played with it for a while.

I thought I'd NEVER land that C-172 but I finally did.  The I moved up to the Learjet and thought I'd NEVER land it, either.  After cheating with EFIS for a while I finally got that down.  Then I couldn't get the heavies off the ground ... and I'm sure you can guess the rest of the story.

It's immensely more rewarding to "do it right" and it's immensely frustrating to keep crashing the same plane over and over and not knowing why.  If Tropicana doesn't want to put in the (God only knows how many) hours into mastering navigation, landing, et al. let him cheat for a while with an autoland gauge.  And I might recommend that he use EFIS for a while too.

I hope we'll see him back here in a few months offering us advice.

[Rifleman]

I have an auto land feature enabled in my sim.....it takes a few things though...first you need to make sure "Crash Detection" is turned off....." Run out of Fuel" is turned on......then you need time for this to happen and unfortunately you usually won't be able to have your plane return to an airport........all you have to do now is WAIT.....
Once you run out of fuel, your will land....if you come down over water, wait for it to return to the air and you will be gliding again,... repeatedly till you come down on land somewhere............it works,........HONEST !            

[Iroquois]

Autoland and ILS are probably the hardest things in FS to master. I've only successfully landed a 757 at Boeing/King Int'n, Seattle using the ILS Approach Hold. The approach hold never seems to hold proper altitude even when I throttle up, this is in prop planes. I usually end up ramming frace first into the ground. It's easier to land them manually.

[Ivan]

Jetliners, and everything which has a easy-adjustable speed holder: APR and SPD mode on, set speeds according to the kneeboard

JET Aircraft where you can see the throttles and don't have speed hold: 50% and full flaps on the last stage usually will do

Turboprop:, max pitch, keep speed around 80-100 kts for mid-sized ones like the king air

Russian FS group An-24: 40-45% TLAI on glideslope, with full flaps and gear, 20% and lower at touchdown, and don't forget reverse thrust

prop aircraft, like the cessna: keep around 50Kts, and flare
Taildragger: keep 50Kts, and front wheels first, flaps up at t/d, and careful with the brakes

[HeavyMetal]

I'm a bit of a novice on this sim. Got it for Xmas last year and have flown almost every day.   I have had great success landing the "heavies" using the APR  switch. I always fly ILS, never VFR.  When I'm 60 or so miles from my destination, after ATC gives me the runway I'm to land on, I go to flight map and find the airport, and get the frequency for the runway and put it in the NAV1. At about 10 miles on final, I switch on the APR button. The plane will line itself up with the runway. All I do now is control the speed using the "Speed Hold."  An A330 will stall at around 115-120  MPH. I set speed to about 145 with full flaps and gear down from about 10 miles out. At 10 miles out, you are at about 2500 ft.  Using the Alt Hold switch, I start to shave off 100 ft at a time the closer I get all the while watching for 3 white lights at the foot of the runway and of course watching the instruments.  Is this the right way?? I dont know, but I land the CRJ consistantly and the A330 most of the time. BTW, I have tested several planes to see what the stall speed is. I find that landing an A330 at 250 mph is too hard.  I find that landing just above stall speed, gives me more time to make minor adjustments on final.

Speedbird_1961

[darkhorse]

Good start speed bird, but I can make it a bit easier.  If you are flying ILS, pull up the map and get the frequencies like you said, but I also put the runway heading (Found next to the ILS frequency on the map listings) in to the NAV HOLD selection.  Don't know if that helps any or not.  I usually fly auto pilot by what ATC says to line up with the runway.  180 knts with the Boeing 777, slowing to 145 the closer I get.  I keep the SPD, HDG, and ALT hold buttons active until the localizer and glide slope come active.  Usually, the localizer for right/left alignment moves first.  When it starts to move, activate the APR hold button, and deactivate the heading hold.  The ALT hold will still overide the APR for the glide slope.  When the glide slope becomes active, then deactivate the ALT hold button.  The plane will line itself up and touch down perfectly.  The only thing you need to do is to make sure to deactivate the SPD hold so you can engage the reverse thrusters.  Otherwise, it will cruise down the runway, trying to maintain speed.

Great for watching landings in spot view.  But if you do that, it will be better if you turn off the SPD hold and just set the throttle to a good speed to keep from stalling.  That way you can cut it as soon as you touch down without switching windows.

[RollerBall]

Yeah - with auto takeoff, autofly and autoland you can get the sim to totally work by itself.

Great if you want to do it while asleep or something like that.........

If you prefer gardening or something to flying, why not go and do that instead?

Beats me!

[HeavyMetal]

Thanks Darkhorse, I'm gonna try what you said bout entering the runway heading into the NAV HOLD. One of the problems I'm having with my method is that at 120-130 mph landings with gear down and full flaps is the angle at which you hit the runway.  With the "heavies" the tail hitting the runway before the gear is a problem that has to be watched.  Also, in cockpit view, you must raise the seat considerably to see the runway. Thus, after touchdown you are literally looking straight down at the asphalt and cannot see the end of the runway.

Speedbird_1961

[RollerBall]

A landing in a heavy at 120-130 kts is more of an 'arrival'

You'd never get away with it in real life!

Try adding about 30 kts to that

[MICROSOFT]

Yes, there is a software for autoland. Requirement is that you should be in line with the runway and have the EXACT (Eg. 087) runway co-ordinates tuned in the course/heading knob (boeing). Turn auto pilot on and then press 'w'(max view). Click in the middle portion of the HUD(Heads up display) and it will show 'AL' (autoland) if everything is set up properly. It will land by itself.

Try 'Landing Blind at heathrow' for starters.

Program : AFG Heads Up Guidance System V2 For Fs2002

Website:http://www.AlliedFSGroup.com  {Go to downloads->Panels}

File URL: http://www.alliedfsgroup.com/get.php?type=6&id=2 (1685 KB)

IMPORTANT: Also download the patch here: (3KB)

http://www.alliedfsgroup.com/get.php?type=6&id=3


Author's Comments:

1. Heads Up Guidance System  

     The AFG Heads Up Guidance System for FS2002 is designed for virtual captains and real first officers who are sick of watching their captains have all the fun. This revolutionary HUD is based on a real world Heads Up Guidance system that is used today on Boeing 737s and regional jets. Although there are other heads up displays, this is the first true heads up guidance system for MSFS because it can be used by itself for all phases of flight (IFR and VFR). This is version 2.0 and is NOT compatible with earlier versions of MSFS.

Made by Jon Gibbs

2. Heads Up Guidance System Patch  

      Heads up Guidance System master panel.cfg patch. Thanks to a fellow named Bruno, this patch contains a panel.cfg that will allow the user to access the HGS by pressing the W key when flying a jet in Fs2002. By substituting the HGS for the default mini panel, users will no longer have to modify the panel.cfg files of their favorite panels in order to use the HGS. All the previous HGS features will still work, including the autoland feature that is immune to the FS2002 glideslope capture problem.

IMPORTANT : Please read the 'read me' files(s) given within the downloaded file(s)