Mother's Day brawl

[dcunning30]

If she was a good mother she would have made it shut up before the first complaint.

Huh?

it's not like the baby will say, hey mom, i just had a really bad poop, will you change me?

[Hagar]

If she was a good mother she would have made it shut up before the first complaint.

Huh?

it's not like the baby will say, hey mom, i just had a really bad poop, will you change me?  or hey mom, i'm really thirsty now, or i just became really sleepy can i go to sleep.  Nope, babies don't communicate like that.  They communicate by crying.

I'm not an idiot so please don't treat me like one. Most people will not complain unless the baby has been crying for some time.

[dcunning30]

If she was a good mother she would have made it shut up before the first complaint.

Huh?

it's not like the baby will say, hey mom, i just had a really bad poop, will you change me?

[Hagar]

If she was a good mother she would have made it shut up before the first complaint.

Huh?

it's not like the baby will say, hey mom, i just had a really bad poop, will you change me?  or hey mom, i'm really thirsty now, or i just became really sleepy can i go to sleep.  Nope, babies don't communicate like that.  They communicate by crying.

I'm not an idiot so please don't treat me like one. Most people will not complain unless the baby has been crying for some time.

Sorry, I assumed you read Papa's post.  According to that, the complainer seemed to not fit into the "most people" catagory.  Sometimes babies can be fussy and it's not that easy to quiet them down.  Here's a scenario:  You wait in line on Mother's Day, which means you probably waited a while.  You pay for your food, you get it, and you sit down.  Guess what, baby's cranky.  You are conflicted.  What do you do?  You're trying to call your baby down.  Why?  Because a fussy baby is embarrassing and a fussy baby will ruin your Mother's Day meal.  You are left with abandoning yoru meal that you paid for and haven't enjoyed and leave, or you first try to calm down your fussy baby.

When I see other parents struggling with their fussy babies, rather than feel contempt or become impatient, I feel empathy.  I wasn't suggesting you are an idiot, obviously, you are far from that.  But I do wonder if you might have forgotten what it's like to go out in public with babies.  

Sorry, I somehow missed that. I'm going from my own experience of inconsiderate parents. As for forgetting what it's like to go out in public with babies, you obviously missed my previous reply. I eat out regularly with my little 22 month-old granddaughter & have been doing so since she was a tiny baby. We have just returned from a delightful holiday together. 8-)

[TacitBlue]

It seems to me that any good parent would try to calm the baby down, and if that didn't work, take the baby outside for a while.

[expat]

I'd try a different tactic if I were you... screaming at a crying baby just makes it scream louder. They're babies, you see.. even at the advanced and mature age of 12 months, they are not quite up to speed on etiquette. It's a pain, but there you have it.

Doesn't mean they can annoy their surroundings like hell and get away with it.

And it may incur the mother's wrath...not a good thing, as this lady discovered.  ;D

If the mom was a good parent she would have made it shut up after the first complaint.

Are you in for a shock when you decide the time is right to breed. 1 year olds do one of three things:
Sleep
Sh#t
Cry
And they can do at least two of these things together.

Matt

That might be true but any decent mother would not ignore a crying child anywhere, never mind in a public place. This is becoming very common & I find it both upsetting & annoying. I wouldn't mind so much if they made some attempt to comfort the child but they simply ignore it. No wonder the poor mite is bawling its head off. Makes me wonder how they go on at home. Unfortunately it's quite likely that those children will grow up just like their pig-ignorant parents.

I'm speaking as a proud parent, now going through it all again as a grandparent. I'm pretty tolerant these days, especially where young children are concerned. However, I get a tad fed up listening to the constant whinging of a few inconsiderate people's children when I've always done my best to make sure my own do not disturb anyone.

Sometimes all the comforting in the world makes NO difference at all. Sorry Hagar, but you have forgotten what it was really like. The grandchildren for a few hours or a day or so is no comparison to 24 hour baby comforting. You get a tad fed up listening to the constant whinging of a few inconsiderate people's children, we are talking about babies, not children.

Not so. My granddaughter is almost two years old now but she is still a baby. We have been taking her with us to public cafes & restaurants almost from the day she was born. She loves going out to lunch with her Grandad. There is no way her parents or I would allow her to cry without doing something about it. It's never happened but if she got really upset then we would leave the restaurant rather than annoy the other customers. Because of this attitude we are always welcomed when we return to the restaurant. Sorry, it's not the fault of the baby but the parents.

Two years old in no longer a baby, to a certain degree you can reason with a two year old. My boys are 4 and 2 and it is great that we can take them out when we eat. They have learnt what is required at home first, but the conversation started over the crying of a 1 year old and people thinking that you can turn off the crying like the TV.


Matt

[Hagar]

Not so. My granddaughter is almost two years old now but she is still a baby. We have been taking her with us to public cafes & restaurants almost from the day she was born. She loves going out to lunch with her Grandad. There is no way her parents or I would allow her to cry without doing something about it. It's never happened but if she got really upset then we would leave the restaurant rather than annoy the other customers. Because of this attitude we are always welcomed when we return to the restaurant. Sorry, it's not the fault of the baby but the parents.

Two years old in no longer a baby, to a certain degree you can reason with a two year old. My boys are 4 and 2 and it is great that we can take them out when we eat. They have learnt what is required at home first, but the conversation started over the crying of a 1 year old and people thinking that you can turn off the crying like the TV.

In that case I have more recent experience of dealing with a crying 1 year-old baby than you.

PS. My little Gemma taken at a local restaurant in February 2006 when she was just 10 months old. http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/da-DSCF0024.jpg

[expat]

Not so. My granddaughter is almost two years old now but she is still a baby. We have been taking her with us to public cafes & restaurants almost from the day she was born. She loves going out to lunch with her Grandad. There is no way her parents or I would allow her to cry without doing something about it. It's never happened but if she got really upset then we would leave the restaurant rather than annoy the other customers. Because of this attitude we are always welcomed when we return to the restaurant. Sorry, it's not the fault of the baby but the parents.

Two years old in no longer a baby, to a certain degree you can reason with a two year old. My boys are 4 and 2 and it is great that we can take them out when we eat. They have learnt what is required at home first, but the conversation started over the crying of a 1 year old and people thinking that you can turn off the crying like the TV.

In that case I have more recent experience of dealing with a crying 1 year-old baby than you.

PS. My little Gemma taken at a local restaurant in February 2006 when she was just 10 months old. http://www.simviation.com/yabbuploads/da-DSCF0024.jpg

Hagar, those beautiful blue eyes are going to break hearts in a few years  :o

Matt