Guilty or just weird?

[Paz]

 I think it's another case of someone trying to get rich off of a celebrity

[commoner]

....Iv'e read with interest the posts here and it seems just a bit strange that nobody has mentioned the allegations that he has had children in his bedroom and even his bed overnight..I mean forget all the other strange things he does.....this to me would be the one thing that would send him down for a long time, IF PROVEN. Isn't THIS what the trial is about?...commoner  ??? :-/

[Craig.]

If he didnt touch them, then why?
This is the only thing that should be sorted out from this case, whether he actually assualted them. Its not illeagal to have kids in your bed, it may not be socially acceptable these days. The problem is, its going to be impossible to get to the truth about whether he did assault them. Its essentially his word against the kids.

[Hagar]

My daughter used to love sleeping in our bed when she was young. We used to enjoy having her there, especially if she was frightened during a thunderstorm or having a nightmare. I want to know what this world is coming to when something so innocent & beautiful as that is regarded as a disgusting crime. If this is ever the case I don't want to live here any more.

[commoner]

My daughter used to love sleeping in our bed when she was young. We used to enjoy having her there, especially if she was frightened during a thunderstorm or having a nightmare. I want to know what this world is coming to when something so innocent & beautiful as that is regarded as a disgusting crime. If this is ever the case I don't want to live here any more.

.....Hey hold on...THAT Hagar is just a wee bit different and you know it ....ALL kids do that with their parents... my own kids slept in our bed on many occasions and at any old excuse , they loved it, but I'm bl**dy well sure I wouldn't want them to sleep in MJ's bed..WOULD YOU?...would anybody?..Honest answer now.  as Craig says it will come down to his word against theirs, but if it was your kid who had made the allegations, well, I'd put my last quid on it that you'd believe them before him .... ..commoner  ???

[Craig.]

Yes but in this case it is the parents of the kid to blame. Again i dont know whether he did do anything wrong, i wasnt there. All these parents saw was the chance to claim association to MJ and then possibly cash in on it later. They knew of previous allegations and they risked their kids safety for those, mentioned above. The parents should be on trial, to decide if they are fit to be parents. Its one thing to take our kids to his neverland ranch for a day out at his theme park, and another to actually let the kid stay over.

[Hagar]

I'm simply pointing out how attitudes have changed over the last few years. I've travelled to the US with my daughter & we both slept in the same room for the sake of economy. I've done the same with my brother & nobody thought anything of it. When I was young we often used to share a bed with our mates & the thought of anything sexual would never have crossed our minds. Only a few years ago I remember going on a trip to an R/C model event in Yorkshire with a male friend & having to share a double bed as this was the only room they had left. Due to the fact that perversion now seems to be the norm, perfectly innocent things like that are immediately treated with suspicion.

Don't get me wrong. I despise these perverts & think they should be locked away for ever. I also regret that we allow a few perverts to change the way we think about these things. Children should be allowed those precious few years of innocence. They will lose it soon enough & once it's lost it's gone for ever.

[Craig.]

Don't get me wrong. I despise these perverts & think they should be locked away for ever

I agree, and the same thing should happen to Jackson, if he is found guilty. I just dont see it happening.

[Hagar]

I agree, and the same thing should happen to Jackson, if he is found guilty. I just dont see it happening.

A) He cannot get a fair trial due to the media circus surrounding this case.

B) Even if he's completely innocent & found not gulty his reputation will be ruined for ever. Mud sticks even if it's untrue.

[Craig.]

Couple of face lifts later i'm sure no-one will know its even him.

[Hagar]

LOL Craig. I don't deny he's a tad weird & that's an understatement. For all his wealth I suspect he's a very unhappy individual & can only imagine how mixed up he is. There are still some things money cannot buy & happiness is one of them. The last I heard, weirdness alone is not a crime. I don't think that I would be the only member of this forum to have been locked up long ago if this were the case.

[commoner]

A) He cannot get a fair trial due to the media circus surrounding this case.

B) Even if he's completely innocent & found not gulty his reputation will be ruined for ever. Mud sticks even if it's untrue.

..mmm...very droll Craig.....

 Hagar I take your first point as  would most everybody........but to your second I would like to say this      IMO  jackson's "adoring public" would certainly accept that verdict without question and the Anti-MJs would just as loudly cry "FIX"...what if he was completely guilty and found guilty?  Then his fans would shout FIX and the antis say "I told you so"  What do we do now..call the whole thing off?  You tell me.. :-/ commoner

[Hagar]

[quote]Hagar I take your first point as

[commoner]

...ok Hagar ..well I for one will await the verdict of the jury and accept it without reservation..I have no other choice.........unfortunately the members of the jury are members of that same general public ..do you reckon they also have been already convinced by the media that it's "GUILTY AS CHARGED" in this case?  I prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt and believe they will give the evidence fair consideration........If we stop believing that....well I don't want to live here anymore either...commoner

[Hagar]

[quote]...ok Hagar ..well I for one will await the verdict of the jury and accept it without reservation..I have no other choice.........unfortunately the members of the jury are members of that same general public ..do you reckon they also have been already convinced by the media that it's "GUILTY AS CHARGED" in this case?