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Re: landing advice (picture) tell me what you think?

Postby an-225 » Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:38 am

Thanks Brett, and Vodka, for the tips. I saved a flight out of KEDW (a place, relatively easy on the FPS), with the default 737 at 34% fuel load, and I got it down on the center.

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I tried again, and I got it relatively close to the center (I was distracted while the AP was flying over the threshold, and came in relatively hot and high, flying a larger section of the approach manually.

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And, one from an attempt last night - pretty good I would say considering its:

A: a 747-400 with 97% fuel load.

B: Canberra.

C: a 27knot wind, that acted as both a crosswind and a tailwind.

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Thanks for the help guys!

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Re: landing advice (picture) tell me what you think?

Postby BFMF » Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:41 am

Remember that you should always try to land into the wind if at all possible :D
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Re: landing advice (picture) tell me what you think?

Postby Brett_Henderson » Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:17 am

And, one from an attempt last night - pretty good I would say considering its:

A: a 747-400 with 97% fuel load.

B: Canberra.

C: a 27knot wind, that acted as both a crosswind and a tailwind.


If you got a FULLY loaded 747 onto the runway under those conditions, you're definately getting it
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Re: landing advice (picture) tell me what you think?

Postby tcco94 » Sun May 04, 2008 9:38 pm

[quote]Thanks Brett, and Vodka, for the tips. I saved a flight out of KEDW (a place, relatively easy on the FPS), with the default 737 at 34% fuel load, and I got it down on the center.

Image

I tried again, and I got it relatively close to the center (I was distracted while the AP was flying over the threshold, and came in relatively hot and high, flying a larger section of the approach manually.

Image

And, one from an attempt last night - pretty good I would say considering its:

A: a 747-400 with 97% fuel load.

B: Canberra.

C: a 27knot wind, that acted as both a crosswind and a tailwind.

Image

Thanks for the help guys!

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Re: landing advice (picture) tell me what you think?

Postby macca22au » Sun May 04, 2008 11:33 pm

Brett:  well done indeed.  But simply because of that complexity, all heavy jets are designed for auto-flight.

I have a friend who was a 747-400, and before that an A340 captain, who said they always did a full FMC, MCDU set up even for circuits.

The difficulty that you had simply shows why auto flight is the norm not the exception.  And hand flying in the troposphere is close to impossible and actually illegal unless in an emegency.

On the other hand they all sneak as much hand-flying on take-off, and on final that they can, otherwise it is all too unchallenging.
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Re: landing advice (picture) tell me what you think?

Postby Brett_Henderson » Mon May 05, 2008 6:35 am

[quote]Brett:
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Re: landing advice (picture) tell me what you think?

Postby Fozzer » Mon May 05, 2008 6:58 am

It's not often I pop into the FSX Forum  ::) , but in my years of chuffing around in the previous FS Sims with my various, General Aviation, simple Piston Props equipped with a full set of Nav/Com Radios and clocks, etc, I still get great pleasure from using them to guide me around the countryside, VOR to VOR, and NDB to NDB, and even, on occasions ;) , to dial up ILS frequencies, to steer me towards the runway threshold.

Excellent practice for all the "Wannabe" Jumbo-Jet Pillocks Pilots...
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Re: landing advice (picture) tell me what you think?

Postby Brett_Henderson » Mon May 05, 2008 7:28 am

[quote]It's not often I pop into the FSX Forum
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Re: landing advice (picture) tell me what you think?

Postby macca22au » Mon May 05, 2008 10:52 pm

Brett, look for the download Baron 58F - a zip file from AVSIM I think,  It contains a replacement 'Fine Tuning' section for both the default Baron and the Kingair.  This adjustment makes both planes far more realistic to fly.

The defaults are far too twitchy in pitch particularly, which makes them hard to fly well on an instrument approach.

I must say that after putting a fair amount of work in, I am greatly enjoying the Wilco Airbus series.  They are tubes, but their systems are extremely well replicated and their handling approximates what I believe a heavy aircraft should be like.  I've flown from the right hand seat some big twins but never a jet.

Yes, back in the olden days an airline pilot friend hoofed the first officer out of the right hand seat and I hand flew an F27 for about an hour.  Pity, he wouldn't let me do the approach and landing!
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Re: landing advice (picture) tell me what you think?

Postby Slotback » Tue May 06, 2008 1:39 am

A: a 747-400 with 97% fuel load

Max landing weight in the 747-400 is 630 000lb. :) Sorry. :P
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