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Some questions: Thermals

Postby Daube » Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:48 am

Hi all,

The gliding experience has finally been implemented in FS, many many year after the first Schweizer glide was included in FS 5... or whas it 4 ? Anyway, gliding in FSX is just cool and I completely love it.

My question is about the thermal visualisation: there are three choices: none, natural and schematic.
None and Schematic are clear to me, no problems.
Natural is quite obscure, I could not understand what it was, nothing appears, nothing happens, excepted a little drop in the frame rates  :-?

So basically, what does this "natural" visualisation look like ?
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Re: Some questions: Thermals

Postby Katahu » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:30 am

I'm guessing this is what it realy means.

None - Absolutely no thermals.
Natural - Thermals are there, but you can't see them.
Schematic - Thermals are there and you CAN see them.
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Re: Some questions: Thermals

Postby Daube » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:38 am

In fact the option concerns only the visualisation I guess, since even when I choose "none", the thermal I was soaring is still there...
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Re: Some questions: Thermals

Postby beausol » Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:09 pm

If you go into the help section, it will tell you that the "Natural" option for thermal visualization is birds circling in the thermal.  That's hard to spot, though.
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Re: Some questions: Thermals

Postby Daube » Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:05 pm

Birds ? Really ?
I tried to trigger this visuallisation while I was at Sion, could see a lot of thermals in schematic mode, but no birds in natural mode ?
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Re: Some questions: Thermals

Postby Daube » Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:01 pm

UP !
Has anybody ever saw those birds in thermals ? I would really be curious to see what they look like.
I have explored the thermals around Sion for hours without seeing anything :'(
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Re: Some questions: Thermals

Postby pepper_airborne » Mon Jan 01, 2007 5:28 pm

i have been looking for those animals too for hours, havent found them. Maby has something too do with scenery settings.
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Re: Some questions: Thermals

Postby Daube » Mon Jan 01, 2007 5:40 pm

Almost all my scenery settings are maxed out, excepted the texture resolution that is limited to 1m only, and the scenery shadows. Special animations are maxed out. And even though, if because of any settings those animals would not be displayed, why would I get 7 FPS less than with schematic visualization ?  :-?
This is really strange...
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Re: Some questions: Thermals

Postby pepper_airborne » Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:57 am

Maby it is a bug or something, because obviously the computer is calculating something when the setting is changed.
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Re: Some questions: Thermals

Postby justpassingthrough » Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:45 pm

I think I remember reading somewhere that GA traffic controls birds and you must also be in the right season and area too. Try raising GA Traffic to 80-90% (as a test) and go into Yellowstone National Park or Grand Teton in the spring. The advanced animations must be checked as well. As long as other sliders are up they should appear.


There is also something to be said for overtaxing. FSX does do a bit of analysis so if it is busy rendering and does not have enough resources it may trim back on the animals.  Not sure. I will email NickN and ask him.
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Re: Some questions: Thermals

Postby justpassingthrough » Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:25 pm

[quote]Almost all my scenery settings are maxed out, excepted the texture resolution that is limited to 1m only, and the scenery shadows. Special animations are maxed out. And even though, if because of any settings those animals would not be displayed, why would I get 7 FPS less than with schematic visualization ?
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Re: Some questions: Thermals

Postby Daube » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:04 pm

That explains everything. I have installed reduced autogen + reduced autogen textures, this is why the birds are handled by my CPU, but the textures doesn't show up...   :'(
Oh well, I can live without those birds for now. I will be glad to discover them with my next hardware upgrade  8-)
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