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Re: Flying with keyboard

Postby Xyn_Air » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:29 am

HF,

Imagine that your key inputs are moving an imaginary joystick.  So, when you press NUM4 (that's the 4 key on your number pad) you are moving your joystick to the left one increment and the ailerons respond accordingly.  If you were to press NUM2, you would be pulling back on your imaginary joystick and the elevators would pitch up accordingly.

Now, if you tap repeatedly on one of those commands, you are moving your imaginary joystick a great deal.  For example, if you press the NUM4 key a dozen times or so, you are really pushing your imaginary joystick far to the left, which is going to cause your plane to start bank left sharply.

However, when you stop pressing key commands, your imaginary joystick is not going to center itself like a real joystick would.  So, looking at our bank from above, if you took a real joystick and pushed it to the left until you were at a 15 degree bank and then let go, the plane would stay more-or-less at that 15 degree left bank until you gave it further commands.  However, your imaginary joystick doesn't center itself just because you have stopped pressing the keys, so your plane thinks that you still want to bank left even further until it will eventually roll over and invert.

Of course, if you just pressed NUM4 twelve times in a row to bank left, pressing NUM6 twelves times in a row just to stabilize your bank angle and twenty-four times (!) to bank back in the other direction is really going to cut down on the precision of your control.  One way you can help gain some control back is by using the auto-center ailerons and rudder command, which in the default assignments is NUM5.  It isn't going to turn your keyboard into the latest Saitek flight stick, but it will act as something of an auto-center for your imaginary joystick.

Hope all that rambling made some sense and can help you at least a bit.

Good luck,
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Re: Flying with keyboard

Postby Fozzer » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:50 am


.......Hope all that rambling made some sense and can help you at least a bit.

Good luck,
~Darrin


...rambling makes no sense at all... ::)...LOL.... ;D....!

Flying with a KEYBOARD!!.... :o...!!

...buy a Joystick, with a twist action, and a throttle control, and ALL your problems will be over...for ever...

Simple...Sorted...

...trust me...;)...!

F....G-BPLF... 8-)...!

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Re: Flying with keyboard

Postby Zaphod » Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:07 am

Hey Fozz..

What's with the "F"? ;D
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Re: Flying with keyboard

Postby Fozzer » Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:24 am

Hey Fozz..

What's with the "F"? ;D


Hello Zaph...;)...!

..it's all to do with the present Sim V "Invisibility" necessity...;)...

...and the benefits of using a Joystick, rather than faffin' about trying to fly using the bleedin' Keyboard... ;)...!

...trust me...;)...!

LOL... ;D....!

F....G-BPLF... 8-)...!

..Take care my ol' Mate!...all in fun...as always!... ;D...!
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Re: Flying with keyboard

Postby Zaphod » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:57 am

I thought you may have joined the "Men in Black"

LOL ;D

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Re: Flying with keyboard

Postby machineman9 » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:09 am

get a cyborg evo from saitek

ive been flying with keys for like several months, it just cant be done.


there is a program called Mouse As Yoke-2004. this turns your mouse into  yoke so you can fly with mouse instead of keys. but i think a good joystick such as the evo is good enough
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Re: Flying with keyboard

Postby Holmes_Fans » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:10 am

I have a Sidewinder Precision 2, I just have to get software for it and dust it off. It's been sitting so long dust got down where it pitches and rotates it barely moves
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Re: Flying with keyboard

Postby simonmd » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:24 pm

It is possible but with a VERY light touch! The only answer is to get a joystick. Even the cheapest one will be 100% better than the keyboard, if funds are tight i'd suggest looking on ebay or similar for a used one.
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Re: Flying with keyboard

Postby MOUSY » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:27 pm

I've been flying with the number pad since I can remember. Until I get a joystick, NUMPAD5 will be my best friend. 8-)
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Re: Flying with keyboard

Postby Xyn_Air » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:03 pm

Hm?
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