Long live CFS1, 2 and 3!

[Hagar]

[quote]Not to worry, this thread is just a light duty time killer.

[AvHistory]

It might keep you amused but doesn't exactly give visitors to this forum the best impression of our hobby.

If a hobby does not amuse & entertain you there is no point in doing it in the first place

People who go through life worrying about what others think of them never seem to manage to do much of anything since whatever they do will surely offend somebody.

As to the specifics of this thread I don't believe I was rude to anyone, did not call anyone a vulgar name, did not challenge their parentage, did not challenge their intelligence & I am still looking for the insults you said I have allegedly heaped on my 12 year old opponents.

BTW I

[stiz]

People who go through life worrying about what others think of them never seem to manage to do much of anything since whatever they do will surely offend somebody.

Untrue

As to the specifics of this thread I don't believe I was rude to anyone, did not call anyone a vulgar name, did not challenge their parentage, did not challenge their intelligence & I am still looking for the insults you said I have allegedly heaped on my 12 year old opponents.

People have different ways of taking the same thing, what might not be an insult in one counrty could be highly offending in another

Also you are also a part of this thread and have been one of the major parcipitors then you as well are acting like a 12 yr old.

[IndioBlack]

Where's the yawn smiley?

[Bombardier101]

Please lets stop this very boring subject. There are  lot more interesting subject to be posted than this one. We are just hurting the Hobby we all love so much. Don"t you realize that. Both this Sims have their fuction in the Sim combat world.

Now let grow up and move on to other subjects please.

Maybe you're right, maybe you aren't. I would rather post about something else but this is all that's here right now though.

Since CFS3 is probably one of the graphically ugliest Sims in existence

I disagree entirely! The graphics are absolutely 100% beautiful.

I think you will find we released more CFS3 planes (105) then we did CFS2 planes (100) and in half the elapsed time.

That doesn't matter. What matters is really how difficult it is. There are many more designers making CFS3 addons. What really p!$$es me off is how CFS3 is getting most of the attention and a smaller number of designers like (example) Stiz, Fox Four Team, Thicko, Corsair Freak and Moi to soldier on doing the CFS2 stuff. I don't think GroundCrew does CFS2 any more either....they made good stuff

Actually a debate

Wtf, that's good!

Not to worry, this thread is just a light duty time killer.

Yeah, but I would rather be talking about something more interesting

Apparently. As an outsider all I can see is some of the best freeware developers in the business trading insults like 12 year-olds.* All over nothing. It might keep you amused but doesn't exactly give visitors to this forum the best impression of our hobby.  

It strikes me that you could have finished several projects in the time you've wasted in this thread.  

*PS. That remark is grossly unfair to the younger members of this forum to whom I apologise.

Don't you mean 3 year olds?


CFS3 has a somewhat quirky engine so that is why I don't move on. I simply can't get myself to adapt to it's designing techniques. I'm attached to CFS2 and quickly adapted to it's designing, unlike CFS3 which is great but I don't play it much and I haven't learnt how to do addons for it. So I found it harder than CFS2 and because of that I thought "To hell with this, I'm sticking with CFS2, this CFS3 stuff is crazy!". Besides, I think it just wouldn't be natural for me to be designing for CFS3. Really it does sound strange.... :-/


Hey James. The campaign is all very well and it will have heaps of missions (more than the stock campaign ). The Hamburg, Keil and N

[AvHistory]

People have different ways of taking the same thing, what might not be an insult in one counrty could be highly offending in another

Most of the guys in the thread except for Mathias are in the UK or US & since I have lived in both places I will respectly disagree that I offened anyone who was not specifically looking to be offended.

[Hagar]

[quote]Did not, did not & I am gonna tell you Mommy on you,

[AvHistory]

There are many more designers making CFS3 addons. What really p!$$es me off is how CFS3 is getting most of the attention

There are about 66 developers listed on the CFS3 MAW & OFF staff pages along with a number of others who need to be added so figure about 75 guys.

If you take a look at the names then run through the CFS2 planes etc listed for download here at Simviation & other CFS2 sites you will see that a large portion of them have been created by these guys.

Its generally felt that we have paid our dues, done all we wanted to do with CFS2 & it was time to move on to a bigger more effective sandbox CFS3.

This is not all bad for CFS2 as it left a lot of room for new guys like some of y'all to come into the hobby & make your mark.

At some point both these games will be history just like many before them & you will also move on.

Only one flight sim has stood the test of time, since Amiga'89 for me, & that is Falcon.

[Hagar]

If you take a look at the names then run through the CFS2 planes etc listed for download here at Simviation & other CFS2 sites you will see that a large portion of them have been created by these guys.

Methinks it might help if relative newcomers to the hobby like Bombardier knew the history of CFS & the part these people played in it.

[AvHistory]

Wtf, that's good!

Well I exaggerated just a little....truth is the cows don't do Meadow Muffins

[Bombardier101]

[quote]

There are about 66 developers listed on the CFS3 MAW & OFF staff pages along with a number of others who need to be added so figure about 75 guys.

If you take a look at the names then run through the CFS2 planes etc listed for download here at Simviation & other CFS2 sites you will see that a large portion of them have been created by these guys.

Its generally felt that we have paid our dues, done all we wanted to do with CFS2 & it was time to move on to a bigger more effective sandbox CFS3.

This is not all bad for CFS2 as it left a lot of room for new guys like some of y'all to come into the hobby & make your mark.

At some point both these games will be history just like many before them & you will also move on.

Only one flight sim has stood the test of time, since Amiga'89 for me, & that is Falcon.

[AvHistory]

GZR_Groundhog just released the new MAW terrain to us for testing this morning.  Some samples

[Bombardier101]

I take my hat off to him. That is absolutely great work.

Well I am completely not anti-CFS3 just to let you know. All the sims are great and a lot of FS2004 will run on my FS2002.

[AvHistory]

I take my hat off to him. That is absolutely great work. Well I am completely not anti-CFS3 just to let you know.

No problem, your thread gave as a chance to talk about what we are doing with CFS3.  :)

[Bombardier101]

It's nice to know something good is underway!

Projects of Mine:

Nachtjaeger! Campaign: WW2 Europe German Nightfighters

British Nightfighter Campaign: WW2 Europe British Nightfighters

Scenery for Nachtjaeger! Campaign: Nightfighting Scenery etc.

WW&C France WW1 scenery: For Stiz's WW1 project

If you want any details or anything like that, please just give me a PM!

Of course, I'm working in a very small design team. So that's good, eh?

Again, good luck with CFS3 and happy developing!