Mr and Mrs Beech would be delighted!...

[Fozzer]

One hundred and five Beechcraft King Air 350i's sold?

http://www.flyingmag.com/aircraft/turbo ... NjI1MTE0S0

Hows that for a deal!... ...!

Paul... ...!

[OldAirmail]

I bet there are more than a few Beechcraft employees who's faces are hurting from smiling so hard.

[Jetranger]

Thts cool about Beech craft , great if ya got that kind of money to be able to afford the 15,000 for charter service I guess.

BUT what really got my attention was what I seen below the article !

That being a DIESEL Turbo Prop Cessna

If any of you know anything about DIESEL, when its really really COLD outside, DIESEL has that tendency to JEL,, thickin up.

Doesn't matter if its #2 or #1 Diesel, even with Staryon' added to it which is about the best Anti-Diesel Gel ya can buy, but its expensive and seldom found over the counter at Truck Stops.

I Drive 18 wheelers all over the country for 23 years, thru the mountains out west mainly, and up North including Canada,, I can tell ta at higher Altitudes where the Air is thinner and Colder,, DIESEL becomes a problem, quick and in a hurry !

I've seen a lotta Rigs sittin along the shoulder in the winter and seen a lot that wouldn't Start after sitting for long periods, even tho they have fuel heaters and were plugged in.

I can imagine being up high in Altitude, where its a tad bit colder and then you hear - Sputter - Sputter,, Ker-punk - sputter,, Guarantee ya, you ain't goin to find a Truck Stop in the Air !!

Now what ya gonna do ?

Diesel in Aircraft - Badd Mistake !!!

Article : http://www.flyingmag.com/aircraft/pistons/diesel-skyhawk-comes-instructions-package

[Brian Z]

My favorite plane to fly (in sim, of course) and to paint... would love to see the Wheels Up livery.

Also, I bet the waiting list for a King Air just got a lot longer.

[Brian Z]

That being a DIESEL Turbo Prop Cessna

Not a turbo prop, a turbo diesel-- like your truck has. A turbo prop is a turbine engine that drives a propeller. I sure hope they've fixed the cold-temperature issues with diesel... maybe they've adapted it to run on Jet-A? The article is much too short, doesn't tell you much other than it's a turbo diesel engine.

[Jetranger]

Ya your right Turbo Diesel,,, Opppps my mistake, thanks fer the correction !

[expat]

Thts cool about Beech craft , great if ya got that kind of money to be able to afford the 15,000 for charter service I guess.

BUT what really got my attention was what I seen below the article !

That being a DIESEL Turbo Prop Cessna

If any of you know anything about DIESEL, when its really really COLD outside, DIESEL has that tendency to JEL,, thickin up.

Doesn't matter if its #2 or #1 Diesel, even with Staryon' added to it which is about the best Anti-Diesel Gel ya can buy, but its expensive and seldom found over the counter at Truck Stops.

I Drive 18 wheelers all over the country for 23 years, thru the mountains out west mainly, and up North including Canada,, I can tell ta at higher Altitudes where the Air is thinner and Colder,, DIESEL becomes a problem, quick and in a hurry !

I've seen a lotta Rigs sittin along the shoulder in the winter and seen a lot that wouldn't Start after sitting for long periods, even tho they have fuel heaters and were plugged in.

I can imagine being up high in Altitude, where its a tad bit colder and then you hear - Sputter - Sputter,, Ker-punk - sputter,, Guarantee ya, you ain't goin to find a Truck Stop in the Air !!

Now what ya gonna do ?

Diesel in Aircraft - Badd Mistake !!!

Article : http://www.flyingmag.com/aircraft/pistons/diesel-skyhawk-comes-instructions-package

Well it does not seem to upset the Diamond and their Twinstar, a diesel powered general aviation aircraft that holds the record for flying none stop from from America to Europe on one tank of fuel. There is one that flys on a regular basis out of the airport I work at. On takeoff, it sounds like a 50cc moped that has had the exhaust removed....

Matt

[Hagar]

That being a DIESEL Turbo Prop Cessna

If any of you know anything about DIESEL, when its really really COLD outside, DIESEL has that tendency to JEL,, thickin up.

Doesn't matter if its #2 or #1 Diesel, even with Staryon' added to it which is about the best Anti-Diesel Gel ya can buy, but its expensive and seldom found over the counter at Truck Stops.

It will use Jet A-1 fuel. I've not heard of problems with that.

[Fozzer]

Well it does not seem to upset the Diamond and their Twinstar, a diesel powered general aviation aircraft that holds the record for flying none stop from from America to Europe on one tank of fuel. There is one that flies on a regular basis out of the airport I work at. On take-off, it sounds like a 50cc moped that has had the exhaust removed....

Matt

You are talking about one of the loves of my life...>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_FS1 ..... ....

...and I've still got it!.... ...!

Paul.... ...!

..and, of course, we've still got buzzing 2-stroke engines in Microlights/Ultralights/Flexwings, etc!... ...!

[Fozzer]

That being a DIESEL Turbo Prop Cessna

Not a turbo prop, a turbo diesel-- like your truck has. A turbo prop is a turbine engine that drives a propeller. I sure hope they've fixed the cold-temperature issues with diesel... maybe they've adapted it to run on Jet-A? The article is much too short, doesn't tell you much other than it's a turbo diesel engine.

The usual argument for me... ...!

To avoid confusion.... ...>>>

Turbo-prop: An aircraft fitted with a reciprocating piston engine coupled to the propeller, with its power boosted by the fitting of an exhaust driven turbine to boost the air pressure to the inlet manifolds, turbo-charged, (similar to a motor vehicle).
Beech Baron 58TC as an example.


Turbine Prop: An aircraft fitted with a rotary turbine engine (Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6, etc) coupled to the propeller.
Beechcraft King Air 350 as an example.

Paul....I love engines!...(and occasionally being pedantic!)... ...!

[expat]

Well it does not seem to upset the Diamond and their Twinstar, a diesel powered general aviation aircraft that holds the record for flying none stop from from America to Europe on one tank of fuel. There is one that flies on a regular basis out of the airport I work at. On take-off, it sounds like a 50cc moped that has had the exhaust removed....

Matt

You are talking about one of the loves of my life...>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_FS1 ..... ....

...and I've still got it!.... ...!

Paul.... ...!

..and, of course, we've still got buzzing 2-stroke engines in Microlights/Ultralights/Flexwings, etc!... ...!

I was going to say it made the sound of a Fissy when taking off, but unless you were in England in the 70's and 80's, no one would know what on earth I was taking about......except you Paul, being a biker since Pontius was a pilot....

Matt

[expat]

That being a DIESEL Turbo Prop Cessna

Not a turbo prop, a turbo diesel-- like your truck has. A turbo prop is a turbine engine that drives a propeller. I sure hope they've fixed the cold-temperature issues with diesel... maybe they've adapted it to run on Jet-A? The article is much too short, doesn't tell you much other than it's a turbo diesel engine.

The usual argument for me... ...!

To avoid confusion.... ...>>>

Turbo-prop: An aircraft fitted with a reciprocating piston engine coupled to the propeller, with its power boosted by the fitting of an exhaust driven turbine to boost the air pressure to the inlet manifolds, turbo-charged, (similar to a motor vehicle).
Beech Baron 58TC as an example.


Turbine Prop: An aircraft fitted with a rotary turbine engine (Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6, etc) coupled to the propeller.
Beechcraft King Air 350 as an example.

Paul....I love engines!...(and occasionally being pedantic!)... ...!

You can be a pedantic as you want, there is no such thing in aviation as a turbineprop ......... Unless you want to go to Canada and France, slap them about the head with a large wet fish and tell them they have been teaching their aircraft and engine courses incorrectly............Apart from which, ATR 42/72 turbineprop or Dash8 Q400 turbineprop sounds God awful on the tongue..

Matt

[Hagar]

That being a DIESEL Turbo Prop Cessna

Not a turbo prop, a turbo diesel-- like your truck has. A turbo prop is a turbine engine that drives a propeller. I sure hope they've fixed the cold-temperature issues with diesel... maybe they've adapted it to run on Jet-A? The article is much too short, doesn't tell you much other than it's a turbo diesel engine.

The usual argument for me... ...!

To avoid confusion.... ...>>>

Turbo-prop: An aircraft fitted with a reciprocating piston engine coupled to the propeller, with its power boosted by the fitting of an exhaust driven turbine to boost the air pressure to the inlet manifolds, turbo-charged, (similar to a motor vehicle).
Beech Baron 58TC as an example.


Turbine Prop: An aircraft fitted with a rotary turbine engine (Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6, etc) coupled to the propeller.
Beechcraft King Air 350 as an example.

Paul....I love engines!...(and occasionally being pedantic!)... ...!

I think it's you that's confused Paul. Turboprop

This is a turboprop engine.

[MASABI TROOPER]

Wow, that new Beechcraft King Air 350i's looks very very nice....................

[Fozzer]

I think it's you that's confused Paul. Turboprop

This is a turboprop engine.

Exactly as I described...

A TURBINE Engine (Pratt and Whitney PT6) is a rotary engine driving a propeller....Beechcraft King Air 350; as illustrated above
(It might not sound right, [Turbine Prop], but it accurately describes the type of engine fitted. A Turbine engine, and not a Turbocharged Piston engine!).

A TURBO engine is a Supercharged/Turbocharged Piston Engine in a motor car driving the wheels....Volkswagen TC, etc...

...or, in an aeroplane, driving the propeller....Beech Baron TC/Spitfire...

"58TC Baron Introduced in 1976, run through 1984. Turbocharged engines, powered by 310 hp Continental TSIO-520-L engines".


Paul.....Turbo Turbine.... ...!