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Some questions about a system for FSX?

Postby Titan_Bow » Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:27 pm

I am piecing together a system specifically for FSX, but my son will likely want to do some gaming on it as well.  I am currently looking at using a 3Ghz i7 950, 6gbmRAM, Nvidia 460GTX 1gb, a dedicated Raptor HDD for FSX. 
  I have been toying with putting together some sort of simple small GA simpit,  something that could be easily moved and assembled/dissambled.  My question is, would FSX performance be better on one large monitor, say 36-42" or so,  or 3 individual monitors ( a 22" in the center with 2 19" on the sides).   I'd like to get the best performance I can, but at the same time maintaining a very simple setup that others could use if necessary.  Any pointers or ideas?  I see alot of simpit reference, but most of it seems to center around airliners.  I may just bite the bullet and get something like Saiteks switch panel and multi panel.
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Re: Some questions about a system for FSX?

Postby snippyfsxer » Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:41 pm

When you talk about "one large monitor", what kind of pixel resolution are you talking?
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Re: Some questions about a system for FSX?

Postby Titan_Bow » Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:48 am

I'm looking at a 42" LG that is 1920x1080. 
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Re: Some questions about a system for FSX?

Postby snippyfsxer » Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:21 pm

[quote]I'm looking at a 42" LG that is 1920x1080.
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Re: Some questions about a system for FSX?

Postby Flight Ace » Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:11 pm

[quote] I am piecing together a system specifically for FSX, but my son will likely want to do some gaming on it as well.
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Re: Some questions about a system for FSX?

Postby JBaymore » Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:42 pm

[quote] I see alot of simpit reference, but most of it seems to center around airliners.
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Re: Some questions about a system for FSX?

Postby snippyfsxer » Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:00 pm

When you stretch the FSX configuration with special software over three monitors, a third of the presentation is absorbed by each 1680 x 1050 monitor. This of course gives you a greatly improved field of vision laterally. However, what you see in resolution is three separate monitors each displaying a resolution of 1680 x 1050. Although the total adds up to 5040 x 1050, you are only seeing 1680 x 1050.



I don't understand what that means that 5040 is really a stretched 1680...That isn't correct when we are talking the virtual cockpit.
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Re: Some questions about a system for FSX?

Postby Flight Ace » Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:44 pm

When you stretch the FSX configuration with special software over three monitors, a third of the presentation is absorbed by each 1680 x 1050 monitor. This of course gives you a greatly improved field of vision laterally. However, what you see in resolution is three separate monitors each displaying a resolution of 1680 x 1050. Although the total adds up to 5040 x 1050, you are only seeing 1680 x 1050.



I don't understand what that means that 5040 is really a stretched 1680...That isn't correct when we are talking the virtual cockpit.
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Re: Some questions about a system for FSX?

Postby snippyfsxer » Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:12 pm

Flight Ace,
Okay, I see what you are saying.
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Re: Some questions about a system for FSX?

Postby Flight Ace » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:52 pm

[quote]Flight Ace,
Okay, I see what you are saying.
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Re: Some questions about a system for FSX?

Postby snippyfsxer » Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:14 pm

Finally, You made the statement that you have been using the term "resolution" to refer to total pixel dimentions, regardless of pixel density and which you think is the common usage. You are entitled to your opinion, but I must tell you based on my past experience and the amount of research done prior to my last three posts, I did not find this to be the case.


Alright, just admit it, we are both enjoying the adversiarial, but I hope overall friendly tone...

Like I said, I understand the difference between the common, vernacular usage and the strictly technical.
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Re: Some questions about a system for FSX?

Postby Flight Ace » Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:27 pm

Finally, You made the statement that you have been using the term "resolution" to refer to total pixel dimentions, regardless of pixel density and which you think is the common usage. You are entitled to your opinion, but I must tell you based on my past experience and the amount of research done prior to my last three posts, I did not find this to be the case.


Alright, just admit it, we are both enjoying the adversiarial, but I hope overall friendly tone...

Like I said, I understand the difference between the common, vernacular usage and the strictly technical.
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Re: Some questions about a system for FSX?

Postby JBaymore » Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:38 am

Back to simple GA simpits........ basically the original question topic.....

From my point of view it is not the resolution that matters, it is the physical field of view.
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Re: Some questions about a system for FSX?

Postby snippyfsxer » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:02 pm

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The framing of the windscreen in the simpit is such that I do not see the edges of the projection.
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Re: Some questions about a system for FSX?

Postby Flight Ace » Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:33 pm

I know little about simpit architecture or projecting to a screen rather than using a PC monitor but anxious to learn the pros and cons. I do agree with JBaymore comments reference immursion into the flight experience but would think that a higher resolution would play a role in the overall clarity of the presentation.

And, snippyfsxer, may I ask you to please refrain from making insinuating comments about how individuals run FSX on the fly. You have no idea how I run my rig and poor Titan Bow probably doesn't know what you are talking about. In your previous posts, you included two screens from your three monitor rig insinuating that your center screen represented what I or anyone else would see on their one monitor. That prompted me to provide a couple of similar screens, and which are not zoomed all the way out, so people could properly see the difference for themselves. I only got involved answering you in the first place because in your first responce to Titan Bow, you told him that he could buy three 21 inch monitors, resolution 1680x1050 and achieve a resolution of 5040x1050. That simply was and is not true. Yes your field of vision is better than one monitor. However, In my opinion, two monitor edges or even one disecting the instrument panel when your inside the cockpit is not realistic.

I am interested in improving the FOV for my current FSX PC configuration but not sure the best way to go about it. The one thing I do know, is what a realistic cockpit on the ground and in flight should represent in the way of inside and outside views. This is based on my experience over a twenty year period as a Master Army Aviator. I have flown both as pilot and instructor pilot in all kinds of weather and in eight different fixed wing (single and multi engine)and 4 different helicopters (Utility and Cargo). If you want a thrill, climb into a Bell H13 helicopter with the doors off and take it to 10,000 feet. It's like sitting in a chair at that altitude. By the way, the Bell H13 is the two place helo (Used in MASH) with the bubble and in my opinion, gives you the best FOV of any aircraft.

Now for immursion. This is not new to me. I have designed two platforms that are attached to both arms of my computer chair which adjusts in height and reclines. My joystick and trottles sit on top attached with Velcro. And of course I have a set of pedals. All this with my computer sits in a computer room. I achieve complete immursion after dark. Since all my computer components are black, by closing the door, pulling down the shade, and turning off the light, All I see in front of me is a lighted screen with no border. Probably the least expensive simpit. Very enjoyable.

I also read your last reply to me before you removed it. What did you call me - I believe it was diabolical fiend or something like that.  Do you think I ought to change my call sign to that?

One last comment. I spend a great deal of time reviewing lots of different postings. I find it very commendable to see the number of times that you have come to the aid of individuals with your detailed comments. For what it's worth, I think we are getting closer to that same page.



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