Faster chip?

[hhomebrewer]

Is there a faster chip in an AM2+ design than the 2200MHz of the Agena Phenom 9500 X4 I'm using now? I'd like to upgrade if I can, without having to go to a new motherboard. If I there is no faster chip, I'm looking at a new motherboard and chip that can handle 125 watts. The Agena is 65 watts. Thanks to all you hardware geniuses out there. I appreciate the help.

[hhomebrewer]

I did a bit of looking. Seems the board is limited to 65 watts so No, I can go nowhere. New motherboard and chip time...

[hhomebrewer]

Further research yields I can install an AMD Phenom II X940 Deneb core at 3.0 GHz into my board. No need to go all that way. The chip is just $155 and goes into the ZIF socket in two shakes. My Zalman will cool it. I'm psyched!

[Fozzer]

Its always a bit of a problem in obtaining faster Chips, etc!... ...!

My Gigabyte, Socket A, AGP Motherboard, is fitted with an AMD, Socket A, Athlon XP Thoroughbred 2600 MMX (2.1 GHz) Processor, which is the fastest (apparently) Chip available, to fit into the Socket A.

(...and n-Vidia, AGP, 7800GS 256 Graphics...fastest for AGP Sockets).

If I want any more speed now I will have to purchase a new PCI-e Motherboard and Processor, new Graphics Card, and new Memory!

....and start all over again!....$...$...$.... ...!

At the moment it suits my FS 2004 (Maxed), and FSX so I will stick with it for a while... ...!

Paul...G-BPLF...FS 2004...FS Nav... ...!

[machineman9]

The Ghz bit is how 'fast' it is, but not how powerful it is. It's like a car going along... If it is going at 5000RPM in first gear, the engine will be running fast, but a car in fifth gear at 4000RPM has the engine going slower, but overall is performing better.

So the Ghz is just how many cycles it does in a second, not how effective the cycles are.


According to cpubenchmark.net, the X940 comes in about 100 places better than your current processor, so if that all works (I am an Intel bloke, so I don't know a huge amount about AMD) then that should give a serious boost.

[Fozzer]

The Ghz bit is how 'fast' it is, but not how powerful it is. It's like a car going along... If it is going at 5000RPM in first gear, the engine will be running fast, but a car in fifth gear at 4000RPM has the engine going slower, but overall is performing better.

So the Ghz is just how many cycles it does in a second, not how effective the cycles are.


According to cpubenchmark.net, the X940 comes in about 100 places better than your current processor, so if that all works (I am an Intel bloke, so I don't know a huge amount about AMD) then that should give a serious boost.

...and you reckon that a sooper-dooper, high-speed, X940 will fit in my Socket A Gigabyte Motherboard?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_A

Paul.... ... ...!

[machineman9]

The Ghz bit is how 'fast' it is, but not how powerful it is. It's like a car going along... If it is going at 5000RPM in first gear, the engine will be running fast, but a car in fifth gear at 4000RPM has the engine going slower, but overall is performing better.

So the Ghz is just how many cycles it does in a second, not how effective the cycles are.


According to cpubenchmark.net, the X940 comes in about 100 places better than your current processor, so if that all works (I am an Intel bloke, so I don't know a huge amount about AMD) then that should give a serious boost.

...and you reckon that a sooper-dooper, high-speed, X940 will fit in my Socket A Gigabyte Motherboard?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_A

Paul.... ... ...!

As I said, I am an Intel user, so I know little about AMD sockets.

[Fozzer]

The Ghz bit is how 'fast' it is, but not how powerful it is. It's like a car going along... If it is going at 5000RPM in first gear, the engine will be running fast, but a car in fifth gear at 4000RPM has the engine going slower, but overall is performing better.

So the Ghz is just how many cycles it does in a second, not how effective the cycles are.


According to cpubenchmark.net, the X940 comes in about 100 places better than your current processor, so if that all works (I am an Intel bloke, so I don't know a huge amount about AMD) then that should give a serious boost.

...and you reckon that a sooper-dooper, high-speed, X940 will fit in my Socket A Gigabyte Motherboard?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_A

Paul.... ... ...!

As I said, I am an Intel user, so I know little about AMD sockets.

Exactly what I was thinking...
I gave the full specification  of my system in the first Post...

Socket A Motherboard, and Socket A, AMD Processor.

Paul.

[hhomebrewer]

Fozz, you go to the website for your motherboard and you should see all the compatibility matrices for the chips that fit your board. I have a 1400MHz Socket A (also called a Socket 478, I think) from 2001 or 2002 if you want it. Even has the copper shim to keep you from crushing the die when you attach the heatsink...

[Fozzer]

Fozz, you go to the website for your motherboard and you should see all the compatibility matrices for the chips that fit your board. I have a 1400MHz Socket A (also called a Socket 478, I think) from 2001 or 2002 if you want it. Even has the copper shim to keep you from crushing the die when you attach the heatsink...

Hello Brewer...

....only the AMD Barton core 3200+ is slightly faster than my AMD Athlon core 2600+

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K7/TYPE-Athlon%20XP.html

..and they are all difficult to obtain now.

The slight difference in speed is probably not worth the effort in locating one!

I am now at the limit on my old (very old) Gigabyte K7 Socket A, AGP, Motherboard, but it is still serving me well!... ...!

Paul....a collector of "old things"... ...!

...funnily enough...the only things I have had to upgrade on it over the years have been the AGP Graphics Cards ( and they don't make them any more!). The Processor seems to be satisfactory in its performance!

[hhomebrewer]

Fozz, I have a 3200+ laying around here somewhere, and may be able to once again sink my lunchhooks into a 3800+ I had in my little emachines for a few years. I think I gave the 3800+ to my computer guru. I think I can get it back. The chances of him needing to put it into a machine that a customer may bring to him for an upgrade is minimal. The 3200+ and 3800+ chips are Socket 939s. Would that work for you? If so, you can have whichever one you want or both, if you want. I have no use for them.

[Fozzer]

Fozz, I have a 3200+ laying around here somewhere, and may be able to once again sink my lunchhooks into a 3800+ I had in my little emachines for a few years. I think I gave the 3800+ to my computer guru. I think I can get it back. The chances of him needing to put it into a machine that a customer may bring to him for an upgrade is minimal. The 3200+ and 3800+ chips are Socket 939s. Would that work for you? If so, you can have whichever one you want or both, if you want. I have no use for them.

Hello Brewer...

The Socket 939 has 939 pins.
My Socket A has 453 pins.

So I doubt that the Processors are interchangeable?... ...!

I think I will stick with my Socket A 2600+ Processor and Motherboard until I change to a PCI-e Motherboard and suitable Processor, and a PCI-e Graphics Card.....

...with loadsa money......sometime in the future!...... ...!

Thanks anyway!.... ...!

Paul... ...!

P.S I was considering upgrading to a Socket 939 Motherboard at one time, but even those, (and AM2), are obsolete now!
I am always behind the times!.... ... ...!
It gets so confusing!... ...!

[hhomebrewer]

I'm always behind the times, too. It's cheaper back here...

[machineman9]

The Ghz bit is how 'fast' it is, but not how powerful it is. It's like a car going along... If it is going at 5000RPM in first gear, the engine will be running fast, but a car in fifth gear at 4000RPM has the engine going slower, but overall is performing better.

So the Ghz is just how many cycles it does in a second, not how effective the cycles are.


According to cpubenchmark.net, the X940 comes in about 100 places better than your current processor, so if that all works (I am an Intel bloke, so I don't know a huge amount about AMD) then that should give a serious boost.

...and you reckon that a sooper-dooper, high-speed, X940 will fit in my Socket A Gigabyte Motherboard?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_A

Paul.... ... ...!

As I said, I am an Intel user, so I know little about AMD sockets.

Exactly what I was thinking...
I gave the full specification

[hhomebrewer]

The Ghz bit is how 'fast' it is, but not how powerful it is. It's like a car going along... If it is going at 5000RPM in first gear, the engine will be running fast, but a car in fifth gear at 4000RPM has the engine going slower, but overall is performing better.

So the Ghz is just how many cycles it does in a second, not how effective the cycles are.


According to cpubenchmark.net, the X940 comes in about 100 places better than your current processor, so if that all works (I am an Intel bloke, so I don't know a huge amount about AMD) then that should give a serious boost.

...and you reckon that a sooper-dooper, high-speed, X940 will fit in my Socket A Gigabyte Motherboard?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_A

Paul.... ... ...!

As I said, I am an Intel user, so I know little about AMD sockets.

Exactly what I was thinking...
I gave the full specification