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WHY??

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:19 am
by 757200ba
I dont know if anybody answer this question or not.

Why ATI are not advise for FS anymore????

I see lots of posts saying that everybody should go to Nvidia.
I still remember my 9700 Pro being wonderful for FS 2000, 2002 and 2004.But it was only 128 megs.
Is there any reason??? :-?

Re: WHY??

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:50 am
by N. Chapman
Because NickN is an Nvidia guy so thats what he recommends. I have no issues with my 4890 1GB in either FS9 or FSX and is certainly a good card for the price ;)

Re: WHY??

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:01 pm
by SubZer0
Because FSX uses an old shader/rendering engine that's almost 10 years old. ATi have newer ways of rendering graphics and it doesn't work as well with FSX...

It's not Nick's fault... He knows what he's talking about. don't throw him down for this NDUDE737

it's FSX's fault and its old rendering engine... that's why newer games work better with ATi cards, because they have newer rendering engines.

Re: WHY??

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:43 pm
by 757200ba
So ATI is still good for FS9 and FSX?
So a question, what is the good ATI for FS9 (well that in a way dont let FSX bad)
Thank you.

PS-Just one idea, dont blame nobody from the forums, this guys are genious and we all work to improve the sim.And i guess Nick as already prove that he knows what he talks (got admit that some i dont agree)but...........WE ALL LOVE FLIGHT SIMULATOR. ;)

Re: WHY??

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:25 pm
by NickN
Because Ati cards are designed for shader driver rendering engines and FS9/FSX is a old school triangle rendering engine that requires a video core which is targeted at CPU bound render code which Nvidia still caters too.

and if anyone here wants to tell me ATi runs FS9/FSX better or equal to Nvidia under equal weather conditions and high load payware aircraft then that tells me they are clueless from the neck, up when it comes to hardware technology


You guys are welcome to use what you want but dont EVER post I am some kind of fanboy freak.. What I post comes from 45 years of being a lead engineer in the aerospace industry and if you think you can argue tech

Re: WHY??

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:07 pm
by 757200ba
Well i admire you knowledge but i guess, if you kept yourself away from this kids talk you would be much better winner.

There are guys here also experts on ... Airbus enertial systems, Boeing navigational systems, and cells experts.

But that is "kids" talk we all are here to learn.
And the best option is to pretend we didnt hear, there is nothing to be proved.Like they say in "Star Wars I" "There is always a bigger fish"

Nick keep up the good work, and i have learned a lot with you, even if you are a NVIDIA guy

Re: WHY??

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:19 pm
by NickN
And one other thing too..

Re: WHY??

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:27 pm
by 757200ba
Well my FS is FS9.And im using nvidia.Like you know , because you helped me in other posts.

About the "noise" for me, another shoot in the sea.Ironie doesnt help always.But you know that better than i do.
Nick keep helping us, please, we learn very much with you. :)

Re: WHY??

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:15 pm
by Fly2e
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Re: WHY??

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:21 am
by Slotback
How inferior is ATi in MSFS? 'cause I gotta say, the Radeon 5870 kicks ass, and I'm gonna get one.

Re: WHY??

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:20 pm
by waspiflab
Bah!! once google chrome os is up and running you'll be binning the graphics card anyways :P ATI and Nvidia will be screwed.
Check out the video
http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/

Re: WHY??

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:57 pm
by SubZer0
[quote]
Because Ati cards are designed for shader driver rendering engines and FS9/FSX is a old school triangle rendering engine that requires a video core which is targeted at CPU bound render code which Nvidia still caters too.

and if anyone here wants to tell me ATi runs FS9/FSX better or equal to Nvidia under equal weather conditions and high load payware aircraft then that tells me they are clueless from the neck, up when it comes to hardware technology


You guys are welcome to use what you want but dont EVER post I am some kind of fanboy freak.. What I post comes from 45 years of being a lead engineer in the aerospace industry and if you think you can argue tech

Re: WHY??

PostPosted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:38 pm
by Slotback
Bah!! once google chrome os is up and running you'll be binning the graphics card anyways :P ATI and Nvidia will be screwed.
Check out the video
http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/


That uses videocards for rendering, and honestly it looks like crap compared to a real game.

Re: WHY??

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:08 am
by waspiflab
Bah!! once google chrome os is up and running you'll be binning the graphics card anyways :P ATI and Nvidia will be screwed.
Check out the video
http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/


That uses videocards for rendering, and honestly it looks like crap compared to a real game.

It's only a demo of the chrome browser, once chrome is out and up and running you will be able to play the latest games through your browser/operating system all maxed out on a crap pc. Read into it more mate ;) Imagine the space on your pc they'll be nothing on it, I like the sound of that. Music , photos, games, downloads

Re: WHY??

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:56 pm
by JBaymore
[quote]Music , photos, games, downloads