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New video card

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:04 pm
by RacingLad
My rig could easly compete against the Aztek Calender. And recently I`ve been mulling buying a new video card.

I`m averaging between 9 and 16 fps on airports and a solid 20 fps in the air with a 7200 Nvidia 512mb.

What sort of performance can I expect if I hang a 9800GTX 512mb?

Do you think my fps on airports would improve, especially with the FlyTampa St. Maarten airport while maintaining my current settings.

Thanks.

Re: New video card

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:16 pm
by jwenham
My rig could easly compete against the Aztek Calender. And recently I`ve been mulling buying a new video card.

I`m averaging between 9 and 16 fps on airports and a solid 20 fps in the air with a 7200 Nvidia 512mb.

What sort of performance can I expect if I hang a 9800GTX 512mb?

Do you think my fps on airports would improve, especially with the FlyTampa St. Maarten airport while maintaining my current settings.

Thanks.


What is your CPU? We really need more info to help.

Re: New video card

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:31 pm
by RacingLad
My rig could easly compete against the Aztek Calender. And recently I`ve been mulling buying a new video card.

I`m averaging between 9 and 16 fps on airports and a solid 20 fps in the air with a 7200 Nvidia 512mb.

What sort of performance can I expect if I hang a 9800GTX 512mb?

Do you think my fps on airports would improve, especially with the FlyTampa St. Maarten airport while maintaining my current settings.

Thanks.


What is your CPU? We really need more info to help.



Intel Core Duo E4600 @ 2.40Ghz
2GB RAM
P17G PcChips MoBo

I know it sounds sad...

Re: New video card

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:00 pm
by Maverick6901
What sort of performance can I expect if I hang a 9800GTX 512mb?


There's no question the 9800 GTX would provide a significant performance boost.

Re: New video card

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:20 pm
by RacingLad
What sort of performance can I expect if I hang a 9800GTX 512mb?


There's no question the 9800 GTX would provide a significant performance boost.

Re: New video card

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:48 pm
by NickN
My rig could easly compete against the Aztek Calender. And recently I`ve been mulling buying a new video card.

I`m averaging between 9 and 16 fps on airports and a solid 20 fps in the air with a 7200 Nvidia 512mb.

What sort of performance can I expect if I hang a 9800GTX 512mb?

Do you think my fps on airports would improve, especially with the FlyTampa St. Maarten airport while maintaining my current settings.

Thanks.






You may be asking about FSX in which it requires a correctly spec'd video card for the CPU and memory subsystem in use.

In that throwing a large video card at a slower system in FSX will provide some increase however it will very rarely provide 'huge' boosts.

Since in your case you are already using a very slow video adapter to begin with you will see better results than someone coming from a better card, that is true.

I would however be cautious about placing a PCIe 2.0 card in a PCIe 1.0a slot...

http://eudownload.ecs.com.tw/dlfilepcc/menu/P17Gv10.pdf

PCIEX16
Slot
The PCIEX16 is used to install an external PCI Express graphics card
that is fully compliant to the PCI Express Base Specification revision
1.0a.


With the 1.0a standard it can be hit and miss if a PCIe 2.0 card will work based on the motherboard design and BIOS installed. Usually they will work but there are issues that may come up regardless.

Re: New video card

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:24 pm
by RacingLad
My rig could easly compete against the Aztek Calender. And recently I`ve been mulling buying a new video card.

I`m averaging between 9 and 16 fps on airports and a solid 20 fps in the air with a 7200 Nvidia 512mb.

What sort of performance can I expect if I hang a 9800GTX 512mb?

Do you think my fps on airports would improve, especially with the FlyTampa St. Maarten airport while maintaining my current settings.

Thanks.






You may be asking about FSX in which it requires a correctly spec'd video card for the CPU and memory subsystem in use.

In that throwing a large video card at a slower system in FSX will provide some increase however it will very rarely provide 'huge' boosts.

Since in your case you are already using a very slow video adapter to begin with you will see better results than someone coming from a better card, that is true.

I would however be cautious about placing a PCIe 2.0 card in a PCIe 1.0a slot...

http://eudownload.ecs.com.tw/dlfilepcc/menu/P17Gv10.pdf

PCIEX16
Slot
The PCIEX16 is used to install an external PCI Express graphics card
that is fully compliant to the PCI Express Base Specification revision
1.0a.


With the 1.0a standard it can be hit and miss if a PCIe 2.0 card will work based on the motherboard design and BIOS installed. Usually they will work but there are issues that may come up regardless.

Re: New video card

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:45 am
by Fly2e
ANSWER FROM NICK AS HE CAN'T LOG IN AT THE MOMENT
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I am not at home and can not log onto the forums so I asked Dave to post this for me


Yes, PSU means Power Supply Unit. Unfortunately your PSU is not powerful enough to run any modern video card and will need to be replaced with at the very least a 550watt unit to install a new video card like a 9800GTX


To keep your price low I am going to suggest the recertified EVGA model

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130432


New would cost more but it also comes with a higher clock and a rebate:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130456


For a power supply my concern is it fitting the tower. If this is an OEM computer a typical design supply may not fit however if it is a standard size then you should have no problem.

This unit comes with a rebate and is 75 dollars with that rebate

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817139004


This unit is 80 dollars with a rebate and is more powerfull.. I suggest it over the first one as the manufacture is the best in the business

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817703005


I did not have a chance to look up the chipset and how the PCIe 2.0 standard would run with it. Do be aware that most likely the video card will work however there is a possibility it may not.

Good Luck.
Nick
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Re: New video card

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:54 pm
by RacingLad
Well, unfortunetly my budget will get me nowhere near any of those PSU

Re: New video card

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:06 pm
by Fly2e
ANSWER FROM NICK AS HE CAN'T LOG IN AT THE MOMENT

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I dont want to keep bothering Dave but I wanted to post this to you.. and everyone else about PSUs and they one you are looking at

I want you to read this carefully.. I posted it with very easy to understand terms and calculations so you and everyone else understands how PSU shopping should be done.

Your Pixxo
http://www.pixxo.com.tw/WebForms/Produc ... spx?id=193

Its either 500/580 or 650

If it IS a 550 then it may be one of their older units and that may be WORSE! I am going to ASSUME it

Re: New video card

PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:13 pm
by RacingLad
[quote]ANSWER FROM NICK AS HE CAN'T LOG IN AT THE MOMENT

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I dont want to keep bothering Dave but I wanted to post this to you.. and everyone else about PSUs and they one you are looking at

I want you to read this carefully.. I posted it with very easy to understand terms and calculations so you and everyone else understands how PSU shopping should be done.

Your Pixxo
http://www.pixxo.com.tw/WebForms/Produc ... spx?id=193

Its either 500/580 or 650

If it IS a 550 then it may be one of their older units and that may be WORSE! I am going to ASSUME it

Re: New video card

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:54 am
by NickN
Post the website for where you can buy and I will look and see what they have

The supply you posted does not have any efficiency spec and that is a very huge red flag. If you do not see that specification the PSU company is most likely hiding something

Re: New video card

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:35 am
by RacingLad


Post the website for where you can buy and I will look and see what they have

The supply you posted does not have any efficiency spec and that is a very huge red flag. If you do not see that specification the PSU company is most likely hiding something






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Re: New video card

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:16 pm
by NickN
Languages are no problem


Price is though.


I cant find anything there in the price range you are after that will do the job with any real efficiency and be sure of result over time however this one is a borderline PSU that for the price will probably be your only shot

NZXT
http://www.nzxt.com/products/pp600/

http://www.pcenlinea.com/mp/60541.html

78% EFF - 21A and 22A 12v rails but @ 78% = 33.5A - TIME/HEAT =

Re: New video card

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:59 pm
by RacingLad
[quote]Languages are no problem


Price is though.


I cant find anything there in the price range you are after that will do the job with any real efficiency and be sure of result over time however this one is a borderline PSU that for the price will probably be your only shot

NZXT
http://www.nzxt.com/products/pp600/

http://www.pcenlinea.com/mp/60541.html

78% EFF - 21A and 22A 12v rails but @ 78% = 33.5A - TIME/HEAT =