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Is this system OK?

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:34 pm
by airdruid
I need to upgrade my computer. I don't know much about hardware, etc so I'm restricted to purchasing ready made system...

Can anyone give me feedback on this configuration?

Intel

Re: Is this system OK?

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:22 pm
by Wii
[quote]I need to upgrade my computer. I don't know much about hardware, etc so I'm restricted to purchasing ready made system...

Can anyone give me feedback on this configuration?

Intel

Re: Is this system OK?

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:31 pm
by airdruid
Thanks!

They don't have those items...
How about
Intel

Re: Is this system OK?

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:32 pm
by congo
[quote]I need to upgrade my computer. I don't know much about hardware, etc so I'm restricted to purchasing ready made system.......

Re: Is this system OK?

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:25 pm
by Wii
[quote]Thanks!

They don't have those items...
How about
Intel

Re: Is this system OK?

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:28 am
by Slotback
It's a good idea to understand at hardware before you buy - or you'll have regrets, trust me! My computers only a couple of months old and if I could do it again I would change the parts!

1. Drop the Aegia card.

2. Review this thread http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 1207153686 because it's possible that your DDR3 is SLOWER than cheap-o DDR2, particularly with a 1333mhz FSB processor.

3. If you don't know much about hardware pick the parts and get your local computer store to built it - that's what I did. Prebults like Dells usually are not very good.

4. If you have the budget I'd go for a faster Quad core like the Q9550 or Q9450, but the E8400 & E8500 are still fantastic. Do take note that applications need to be programmed to be multithreaded to take advantage of multiple cores. So it is very well possible that a higher clocked, cheaper, dual could be faster than a slower clocked quad.

FSX will keep Core #1 at 100% all the time, and the other three will be around 50% - 65%, but sometimes go upto 100%, loading scenery are you fly (In my experiance). It MAY be possible for a dual to be a better choice than a quad, so in my opinion, if you're going to get a quad get a Q9450 or above, or else you may as well stick with a cheap E8400.

5. There are a massive amount of fantastic videocards on the market right now. The best for MSFS is the 8800GTX, followed by the 3870x2, this is because MSFS is extremely hard on video memory and video memory bandwidth. More of memory / bandwidth = better. (There's a card called the ATi 2900XT which should be pretty good too, but it gulps power, is old, and is slow in games other than MSFS).

In other applications I would expect the 9800GX2 to be the quickest, followed by the 3870x2, then the 9800GTX, 8800GTX, 8800GTS 512, 8800GT 512, then 3870XT. To be honest I'd get a 3870x2 or an 8800GTS 512 - they're cheap, and fast.

I'm not sure what you would do, because there's a huge range of combinations availible depending on what you plan on doing with your PC.... what do you plan one doing with it? Other than MSFS.

If you plan on picking the parts and not configure a Dell (ARGH), then make sure you get a good motherboard which should help you upgrade in the future. At the moment there are three main chipset manufacturers, ATi, Nvidia, Intel, each have there respective advantages. In the future would you be interested in a dual videocard solution? It only has limited gains in MSFS but I can be worthwhile for games.

Re: Is this system OK?

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:12 am
by a1
Read up. ;)


My only advice. It took me 2 months to read and research to build the system I have now and I still don't know much about hardware and tweeking the system.

You gain a lot of knowledge when you build your system so this is a learning process not something you just put together because you want it or need it. ;)

Re: Is this system OK?

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:40 am
by Flying Mouse
All I can say is you won't regret buying a HD3870x2. Might not be the best card for fsx, but is a very well balanced card for all games. Infact it eats games beside FSX for breakfast  ;)

...and does great in FSX.

Re: Is this system OK?

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:32 pm
by airdruid
Thanks for all the replies... as far as educating myself in this field, I simply don't have the time. (business owners here will relate :))

I wanted a new computer solely for FX , X-Planes and OnTop. I don't play any other games and this one is not going to be used for business purposes. I don't want to go nuts here, so I'd would like to keep it under $3500 without monitor

A friend recommended Alienware so that's what I'm looking into. The configurations above are from their site. I rather go with a known computer outfit than some local computer guy slapping the system together. I'm sure there are plenty of good ones out there, but my personal experience has not been good. After 4 or 5 trips because of software conflicts, i ruled out that option.

If there other mfg out there that you think are worthwhile, I'm all ears.
Thanks again!

Re: Is this system OK?

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:27 pm
by drtomkat
the best advise i could give you is to drop the physics card and check this site for a qcore procesor: tigerdirect.com