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refrigerated tower?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:42 pm
by yancovitch
at the risk, of repeating myself from the previous post, and a foolish question ....what about a refrigerated tower?..i've seem tiny fridges which are totally silent...no dust ...quiet.....total control over temperature??? (of course if any condensation problems if any,could be worked out?

Re: refrigerated tower?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:53 pm
by ozzy72
Not a good idea. Whilst silicon circuits like being cool there can be excessive cooling! Condensation is one major problem (think of all the solder points etc that could short out with a little water), also things like HDs, CD/DVD-ROM drives etc have a range of temperatures and excessive cooling can cause problems for them (like all devices with mechanical parts).
Basically get as much fan cooling as you can and don't play with freon/liquid nitrogen ;) ;D

Re: refrigerated tower?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:06 pm
by waspiflab
Dont panic it's nearly December just open your windows ;)

Re: refrigerated tower?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:50 am
by Mazza
if you want to keep the tower cooled get a good cooling fan if you can't afford you can make thr room cold(get a coat ;))

Re: refrigerated tower?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:33 pm
by NickN
It can be done but not for any long period of time with a standard refrigerator. It requires a special unit that has a very high level control system for humidity.

Easier is cooking or motor oil submerged:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/01/09/ ... t_the_fans


Both require the CPU socket have a silicone seal around them http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/01/09/ ... page8.html

Re: refrigerated tower?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:30 pm
by JBaymore
You could always follow in the steps of our own intrepid Gunnerman:

Part I
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 1182817726

Part II
http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 1184529953


best,

.................. john

Re: refrigerated tower?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:26 pm
by yancovitch
wow!!!..i'm amazed and impressed!! never know what you're gonna learn here..............vc

Re: refrigerated tower?

PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:41 pm
by GunnerMan
Yes you can refrigerate at pc tower. Remember how condensation works,(Vapor cooled to liquid) a cold surface will draw moisture out of warmer air. At what temp difference this will occur and how much depends on the humidity of the environment you are working with. Blowing cold air in your computer wont do anything, if it is totally sealed worst case is your case sweats a bit.
A hot computer part will not promote condensation because it wont cool it to a liquid. So if I have cold air blowing in I wont need to worry about condensaion unless I turn off the A/c and the computer draws in warm moist air onto it's cold parts. It works amnd is pretty safe.

Submerging a computer is a worse idea because it destroys caps, eats rubber, can decompose/turn acidic with exposure to air, and has very poor heat transfer.

it is wise before you undergo anything refigerated in your PC you study and get a basic understanding on how gas and liquid works and how they change states. If you look at the links JB posted(I have more) you will the the extreme measures taken to totally eradicate air from the area of cooling. I used di-electric grease and foams because it makes the CPU itself cold enough to form ice on it in about 30 seconds.


Also let me add there is a common misconception with people that if thier computer is colder it will be faster. This is not true at all, if you are not having stability problems, or you are not overclocking, and your cpu temp is under 50C at load there is no need (other than interest) to do any sort of "extreme" cooling. I am not trying to scare anyone away from trying it, infact id love to see more of it but these kinds of things will put you on the fast track to a new computer if you are not careful.