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Hiper Type R

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:19 pm
by Viper22
I'm questioning if this is a good PSU or not.  It has recommended it to many people, and I purchased it for my computer, and I seem to be running into several problems with it.  My computer will randomly shut down for 10 seconds, then attempt to boot up, then die, then boot up 10 seconds later.  I've posted on other forums and they say that it is the PSU for sure, and that its reliability is questionable.  It may look like I need to buy another power supply.  So double check the words of advice that people give you ;)

Re: Hiper Type R

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:54 pm
by Hai Perso Coyone?
It's an AWESOME PSU...I got mine after reading many times the praise Cameron gave it...I would definately recommend it...Strange about your problem though...Mine doesn't do anything like that...Maybe it's something on your end...You could also wait until someone with more experience than me comes along... ;) ;)

Re: Hiper Type R

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:30 pm
by cheesegrater
It is not a good idea to take advice from an internet forum with face value anyways, I thought that was common sense. However, if you research this PSU I doubt you will find anything really "bad" about it. The PSU gets very positive reviews. Although, reviewing a PSU requires a lot of technical knowledge, and most sites do not perform in depth reviews. The PSU is good value, I haven't seen anything better for $100. However, I wouldn't use it in a $2000 rig.

If it is the PSU I would get it replaced to avoid damage to the system.

Re: Hiper Type R

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:42 pm
by GeForce
Does sound like a power problem to me. Personally I'd replace the PSU anyway - they're not all that expensive. Also, it will save you the regret of not doing it if the PSU decides to die and take half your system with it.

Jon 8-)

Re: Hiper Type R

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:44 pm
by NicksFXHouse
It is not a good idea to take advice from an internet forum with face value anyways, I thought that was common sense. However, if you research this PSU I doubt you will find anything really "bad" about it. The PSU gets very positive reviews. Although, reviewing a PSU requires a lot of technical knowledge, and most sites do not perform in depth reviews. The PSU is good value, I haven't seen anything better for $100. However, I wouldn't use it in a $2000 rig.

If it is the PSU I would get it replaced to avoid damage to the system.



The assessment Cheese has posted here is one of the best pieces of advice everyone should take. Just because a list of people say something is excellent does not mean it is excellent for every rig out there. If a member on this board like myself or Richard listened to such generic recommendations and installed a HyperR into his system, it would most likely smoke the PSU or the components in his computer because of the hardware he is running.

When it comes to building a computer and placing high performance components into it, running a 100 dollar PSU based on everyone saying it works great is a GRAVE mistake. The system starts with a PSU and if one intends to run the better components they better spec a PSU that can not only run those components but also leave at least 25% overhead in supply ability and still run cool.

The HyperR is not a bad PSU but if it is suited for a system should NEVER be taken from a forum post that it will work, work correctly and not be stressed in the process. That decision is based onthe total power consuption all devices will draw PLUS if one intends to overclock PLUS overhead (over and above) current available to run any added devices down the road and still maintain cool operation.


To be quite honest.. I have not run a system the HyperR would handle in over a year. Just because the PSU may handle a 650watt peak load does not mean that power goes to where I need it in my system. If I were to spec a PSU based on the power output watt rating more than 1/2 the PSU's on the market would be underpowered for my system even though thier watt rating was well within what I needed. One of the reasons why I would run a 800-1000watt Silverstone or PC Power and Cooling PSU over a cheapo like HyperR is so I never, ever have to worry about power consumption and the PSU can migrate to the next build (possibly 3 builds) without throwing double the money down the drain.

Pay me now or pay me later...

Pay me later can fry system components and make my high system game loads have all sorts of issues, like stutters, and including components running hotter ALL THE TIME so I'll pass on the cheapo PSU thank you very much.


You do get what you pay for.

Re: Hiper Type R

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:10 pm
by Viper22
Yes, I was trying to give a heads up to people who don't do enough research...like me :)  It hasn't completely died on me yet, but when it does, I will be looking into a PC Power and Cooling or an Enermax supply next time round.  To add to this, I still believe it is a fantastic PSU, and I am not completely going to suspect it for my problems, because if a PSU died, would the system try to reboot, or would the fans stay on on the PSU to cool it off (feature of the Type R).  I know that the 965 chipsets do have restart problems, so I am looking into that too.

Re: Hiper Type R

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:21 pm
by ctjoyce
Yes, I was trying to give a heads up to people who don't do enough research...like me :)  It hasn't completely died on me yet, but when it does, I will be looking into a PC Power and Cooling or an Enermax supply next time round.  To add to this, I still believe it is a fantastic PSU, and I am not completely going to suspect it for my problems, because if a PSU died, would the system try to reboot, or would the fans stay on on the PSU to cool it off (feature of the Type R).  I know that the 965 chipsets do have restart problems, so I am looking into that too.


Where did you buy it? You may have gotten one of a bad batch that are still floating around, just ask GeForce he got one of these. Newegg, I believe has a crop of these in their invintory.

Personally I have used to date 6 Type R's and not one has given me any sort of problem. The current one in my rig has been well pushed and continues to be stable. Pimp ring, and several other sites have given it much praise for its ability.

HOWEVER! If your running a multi processer, SLi, 4+ hard drive RAID rig, with everything pushing max clocks and also cooling that stuff, yea the Type R is not at all the unit you should be useing. Nick is right there, but with the rig you have setup, it should preform wonderfully. A close friend of mine just setup something very similar and the Type R works flawlessly for him.

If you must PC Power and cooling would be the way I would go if not the Type R.

Cheers
Cameron

Re: Hiper Type R

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:33 pm
by NicksFXHouse
USB devices being driven (I alway use and external hub but many do not, you must add up the current draw)
Number of hard drives.. are they IDE, SATA, SCSI... each requires current)
Number and TYPE of FANS (missed all the time)
Memory sticks that require high current
Motherboard special amp requirements for 5VSB circuit
Reader cards
CDROMs (burners? DVDs? ) they are not all the same
Processor needs (do you intend to overclock at all?)
HSF.. stock or a monster upgrade?
The PSU specs for thermal fan kick in... if you run your system and the high fan speed on a thermal controlled PSU and is always running FAST

Re: Hiper Type R

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:17 pm
by Viper22

Where did you buy it? You may have gotten one of a bad batch that are still floating around, just ask GeForce he got one of these. Newegg, I believe has a crop of these in their invintory.

Personally I have used to date 6 Type R's and not one has given me any sort of problem. The current one in my rig has been well pushed and continues to be stable. Pimp ring, and several other sites have given it much praise for its ability.

HOWEVER! If your running a multi processer, SLi, 4+ hard drive RAID rig, with everything pushing max clocks and also cooling that stuff, yea the Type R is not at all the unit you should be useing. Nick is right there, but with the rig you have setup, it should preform wonderfully. A close friend of mine just setup something very similar and the Type R works flawlessly for him.

If you must PC Power and cooling would be the way I would go if not the Type R.

Cheers
Cameron


I bought if from NCIX.com (mainly canadian site) and the manufacturers sticker on it says it was made in June 2005, so maybe it was an earlier unit that was bad.  My sytem only shuts down occasionally, so thats why I'm going to take a look on Boxing Day for any good sales on other power supplies.  It's past the retailers warranty, and to ship this thing from Ontario Canada to California is gonna cost a fortune, so I may as well just buy a new PSU.  It was working flawlessly for a while, and then these recent failures have led me to suspect either the PSU or Mobo...more likely PSU.  I'll give it some time and see what I can find out.

Re: Hiper Type R

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:11 pm
by ctjoyce
Yea, that sounds about right for the bad batch. If you were willing to RMA it directly to Hiper and not through the site you bought it from, you may have better results. Hiper knows about the problem and they are very prompt about getting you a new PSU.

Cheers
Cameron

Re: Hiper Type R

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:38 pm
by Viper22
The thing is, I'm just too lazy to ship it out there....and havent had any problems for a day now and my computers been on a while....I'll wait and see and what happens....

Re: Hiper Type R

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:38 pm
by ctjoyce
It could also have been a break in period (which I've never herd of).

Anyway its good to hear that its working for you.

Cheers
Cameron