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Found the write-up below and tried the Hybernate which really worked when I woke it up by pressing the PWR switch.

Once when I woke it up by moving the mouse or touching a key the mouse behaviour and other things were affected & had to restart.

These days when we need to GET GREEN why are'nt these things embeded automatically into the BIOS, windows or whatever?.

I started doing this operation but need to go Start > Turn off computer > hold down Shift to change Stanby to Hypernate & click it. The PC appears shut down completly (25secs), and is quick to start where I left off.

Since win95 have been using the, one click shutdown, tiny utility "WinOff.exe" for quick stut down, & found it has another fanction "WinHib.exe" so I switched to that.

Let's all BE GREEN

Writ-up:-
But desktop PCs can also be configured to save power and, with an estimated billion PCs gobbling up watts around the world, should be. Not all PCs support all power-saving features, but it's well worth a trip to Control Panel, Power Options, to see what's available. Before you do that, however, check that Advanced Power Management is turned on in the PC's Bios.

Power Options offers several alternatives. Yovwill get independent settings forturning off the monitor and hard disksafter user-specified intervals. A typical CRT monitor can drop from a power consumption of 120W to around 5W_ and a LCD monitor from VOW to 4W.
so this is a considerable saving. Standby goes further, putting all       possible devices in a slate of suspended animation, rather like the England football team. When you presb a key. the computer awakes, resuming the ;state it was in. At least, in theory. found in practice that sometimes it {reboots, which is less than optimal}. You'll also probably find that your Internet connection is no longer active, but there's another gotcha
if there's a power failure, then you will loose any unsaved data. However, if you let your PC go into standby without first saving ail open files, then >u obviously like to live dangerously, finally, although power consumption considerably reduced, you'll still be making a small, but significant, conlribution to melting the ice caps.

A better alternative if you want to save time restarting, is to use the hibernate feature, which you can turn on from the Hibernate tab of Power options. This saves a snapshot of the C's memory TO a file on the hard disk, then turns the machine off completely, when you press the power switch back on, XP will return to the pre-hibernation state. This can be a real time saver.

I don't use hibernate or standby because the parts inside the computer expand and contract, and apparently that shortens their life. I let my monitor go on standby, but never the computer. This is why I don't shut down unless I really have to. Also, hibernate decreases performance. If I was serious about saving power I would use AMD's Cool and Quiet drivers.

Does this mean that as a rule you keep the PC running all day?, crakey and these goons advised me to expand/contract my parts to smitherines.    PHEEEEWW

Some use hibernate and standby without issues, others have problems. In the past video drivers have proven to be one of the biggest problems using PM/hibernate features. Windows may also have problems dealing with PM states. I have several towers running 24/7 for years although I do shut them down from time to time.

In a new build it is best to cycle a system on/off for the first 30 days. This is especially true if one uses Arctic Silver thermal compound which relies on thermal inversion to properly set up over a period of time.

And I agree with Cheese

Thanks all, as usual I remain at limbo, but surely with no noise coming from anywhere & all lites out, except a green led on mobo, how much can it burn?

Will try it during the day for a while.

My towers are almost dead silent. I spnd the money on components that cool properly, are well thought out so the least number of fans are needed and all can be controlled automatically based on CPU, PSU, GPU and tower temp. If my systems are not under stress you would never know they were on unless you were sitting right next to them and pointed your ear down in the direction of the tower.

My box has only one fan, the CPU one and is hardly heard.

I only use the PC a couple of times a day for a few minutes, so instead of let it run or shutting it down, will try the Hipernate plus screen switch off for electric economy.

If things start misbehaving will just revert to s/W off.

You have a passively cooled PSU? Those are somewhat hard to find, and they usually have weak ratings. However, if you are building a 100% passive rig you will use less electricity.

Just a PSU "EZ cool 550w" but beeing behind the box & with the box sidepanels off, just hear a faint whine of the PCU fan.

See what I build in my sign. below about 2 yrs ago, but is nothing special.

I don't use hibernate or standby because the parts inside the computer expand and contract, and apparently that shortens their life. I let my monitor go on standby, but never the computer. This is why I don't shut down unless I really have to. Also, hibernate decreases performance. If I was serious about saving power I would use AMD's Cool and Quiet drivers.

does that mean (assuming you have a car) that you leave the engine running all the time as most wear occurs during start up?

I don't use hibernate or standby because the parts inside the computer expand and contract, and apparently that shortens their life. I let my monitor go on standby, but never the computer. This is why I don't shut down unless I really have to. Also, hibernate decreases performance. If I was serious about saving power I would use AMD's Cool and Quiet drivers.

does that mean (assuming you have a car) that you leave the engine running all the time as most wear occurs during start up?  do you leave your tv on all the time as turing it on and off will expand and contract the components too.  i know everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but i feel your reason for leaving your pc on most of the time is a poor one.  im the complete opposite, even if im going for tea and im only going to be 15-20 minutes my pc gets turned off.

indeed using energy efficiant components will reduce you energy usage, but you cant beat turning it off to save energy.  i dont want you to feel im just picking on you, its just it was the first reply i read (it being the first in all  ;) ) and i found your reasons a little odd.

8-)

You can't apply that logic to everything. When you idle a car for a long time you can cause damage too. As for a television. It doesn't have the same power requirements, and problems as a computer. I have an older Celeron, and the PSU in that thing is wasted, it doesn't provide proper voltages, and you get random crashes. Sure, you can keep shuting down, and turning on your computer, but your capacitors will age quicker.

I got that advice from an Interview with the founder and CEO of PC Power and Cooling. One of the best Power Supply manufacturers. He knows his stuff.

http://www.pcpower.com/about/interview.php

CPU: Any comment on that age-old debate about whether to turn PCs off at night?

Dodson: Our position is let it run. That

Well chaps after all said, how much damage will a bit of extra expand/contract will do to be GREEN.

Think now, did you ever count the start/stops the average nut in this forum does each day when Oveclocking, installing programs, making boobs etc etc?, and the perishing machine goes on & on for years, or rather a couple of years, as we all keep upgrading, greedy as we are.

Me at least 5 - 10 times pd, only just now I was asked twice by two utility programs to restart, and a third time for a boob I made.

I think really we are being pedantic.

I count. My motherboard automatically keps track of startup, shutdown, and reset cycles.

BTW you usually don't need to restart when install new software. We're not using Windows 98 anymore.

I wonder why they keep asking us to do so?, but in fact Idid try 1-2wise to run a prog without restart and things went wrong, untill I restarted later.

But if you say so OK.