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Bad news......as I'm finishing to build my $5000 dream PC I see the new XFX GeForce 8800GTX Graphics Card!

give a look at legit reviews, and find out that the 1950xtx is no longer the best!

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/415/1/

it puts the ATI croosfire all the way down!

what sould i do, return the ATI cards, and take 2 XFX GeForce 8800GTX, or stay with the 1950 crossfire???

I need it just for FSX

Thanks

Bad news......as I'm finishing to build my $5000 dream PC I see the new XFX GeForce 8800GTX Graphics Card!

give a look at legit reviews, and find out that the 1950xtx is no longer the best!

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/415/1/

it puts the ATI croosfire all the way down!

what sould i do, return the ATI cards, and take 2 XFX GeForce 8800GTX, or stay with the 1950 crossfire???

I need it just for FSX

Thanks

Its not bad news.. its old news

If you have been reading these forums every person who has high technical ability has stated quite clearly that buying right now is a HUGE mistake.

That 8800 card can kiss my grits because I am not stupid enough to buy Nvidia's test junk (no offense to anyone intended)

You will not have the opportunity to purchase a DX10 ATI card for a bit longer and even when it is released, I still would not run out and buy it.

If you wanted a dream system for FSX you bought at the wrong time. It will be March before the hardware is out and debuged enough to be worth risking high dollars on.

Wait, till ATI's DX10 card, that way you'll make a much better purchase.

Here is a comparison of the X1950XTX and 8800GTX and 8800GTS using FSX. They run at similar speeds, however you can set a higher detail on the 8800 cards, they are DirectX 10 compatible, and image quality is better.

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.h ... h1c2lhc3Q=

However keep in mind AW9D MAX motherboard is a Crossfire board, not a SLI board. You can run SLI, however you need hacked drivers. I don't know how well it works vs. a true SLI board. Also, you will have to depend on moded drivers. So, when nVIDIA releases new drivers, you're gonna have to wait until someone hacks the drivers again to enable SLI.

Here is a review of the AW9D MAX board where they use moded drivers to run two 7950GT in SLI.

http://www.xtremesystems.com/modules.ph ... 33&page=12

I don't know, it is a tough decision. Keep in mind that ATI is gonna release their DirectX10 cards early next year, and they are probably gonna be faster. This is why it's not the best time to make such a big purchase.

I have not played much with FSX lately with the exception of booting it up recently... I dont think its fully SLI compatible at this point but I may be wrong.

Corssfire is a much better platform because you are not hindered by Nvidia's grip on your games.

I thought you already made the decision to go for crossfire now rather than wait for the hardware to get sorted out when you were getting advice on this system?

I was trying to stop you from spending a lot on G-cards now lol!

It's a decision you'll have to make..... again?

Wait until the next models of the g80 series hit the market
and than go with Nvidia. They than might be 5 fps slower than ATi Cards.. as usual. But ATi drivers are still a pain...
and make way more troubles than Nvidia.. and Nvidia is still the driving force behind most new technologies !!

Wait until the next models of the g80 series hit the market
and than go with Nvidia. They than might be 5 fps slower than ATi Cards.. as usual. But ATi drivers are still a pain...
and make way more troubles than Nvidia.. and Nvidia is still the driving force behind most new technologies !!

Pfffft.
ATI introduces far more things than Nvidia HDR + AA, x16 Angle independent AA, direct X 9 card that was actually fast .

Geforce 6 shader model 3 wasn't needed, and only like two games used it at the time, and the Geforce 8 has useless features (at the moment).

ATI drivers are also fine. Just install the latest drivers then grab ATI tray tools.

Pfffft.
ATI introduces far more things than Nvidia HDR + AA, x16 Angle independent AA, direct X 9 card that was actually fast .

Geforce 6 shader model 3 wasn't needed, and only like two games used it at the time, and the Geforce 8 has useless features (at the moment).

ATI drivers are also fine. Just install the latest drivers then grab ATI tray tools.

Are we really going to go into this? Alright DizZa, grab your nomex, cus here come the flames.

ATi and nVidia are, and have been for a very long time the number one GPU makers in the industry. Ususally claiming the #1 high end slot for mabe a month or so at a time.

But thats really where the similarities end. ATi and nVidia seem to be much like AMD and Intel. nVidia and Intel are the massive producers with cash to burn. So they can throw money at Duel core and Duel graphics solutions and make them work. However ATi comes along, takes the blueprint, and makes it their own. Sometimes its works (7950 vs X1950), but many times it fails (Gen 1 crossfire vs Gen 1 SLi). However the company's seem to have their own market to which they play very well. ATi has the HTPC and low end gaming wrapped up, while nVidia plays right to the power user. My train of thought is alwaies better media = ATi, better gaming = nVidia.

The drivers are a whole different battel ground. nVidia seems to be winning this one here. As someone who has used both company's cards and drivers, I can tell you nVidia wins. Though setting and tweaking your card via the drivers is about the same between ATi and nVidia, I find that in installing and uninstalling nVidia wins hands down. A quick uninstall, defrag, reinstall, then registry clean and your up and running again. ATi on the other hand needs Cat uninstaller + a freeware app to get rid of everthing, then defrag, and reg clean. Then when you actually get everything running again, you still run into that whole OpenGL problem. Also as someone who is running vista as a main OS, I can tell you Vista likes nVidia much better than it did ATi.

Finally we get to the whole G80 debate. Is it needed today? No, however in 4 months? Yes. Both card makers need to launch a DX10 card, thats just a fact, and it happens that nVidia got theirs out first. ATi should have R600 out by January. Its just how the hardware world goes round. I remember first hearing about Pentium D and AMD x2 and thinking to myself "Why would anyone ever need a duel core?" No I say to myself "only three more months till conroe!" We may think the tech is early, but in the next half year I see about 50% of the hardware regulars having a G80 or R600 inside their towers. I can tell you I will have two.

Cheers
Cameron