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whats the best cooling?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:09 pm
by yf
as I understand the cooler the CPU, the higher the performence, so I'm looking for the best cooler, I dont care if it is a fan, water, freon, or liqwed hydrogen...as long as it freezes up the chipset!

a high price is not a problem as long "I get what I pay"

Thanks
YF

Re: whats the best cooling?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:40 pm
by ctjoyce
I think your a bit misguided. A CPU does preform better when its temp range isn't a large one, and a temp range in the high twenties and maxing in the fourties. HOWEVER What super cooling is really for is overclocking. Say my processer the 550J Prescott idles at 40*C and its load temp is 58*C. Now that I have overclocked and overvolted it I needed the best cooling possable to keep it cool. After clocking to 3.98Ghz I added a Zalman CNPS9500Cu (The best aircooler on the market) to keep it cool. Even with the overclock it runs 38*C idle and 52*C load. At stock Clocks I get around 25*C idle and 41*C load. Its quite nice.

This is the Zalman CNPS 9500Cu Testing proovs that its better than watercooling. Yes its a $60 Hunk of copper with a fan, but its quite amazing.

Cheers
Cameron

Re: whats the best cooling?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:04 pm
by yf
Well thanks,
but how, can just cooper and a fan cool a overheeted overcklocket CPU?

Re: whats the best cooling?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:36 pm
by ctjoyce
Have you taken physics yet?

Okay, copper is a material that speeds up the transfer of heat from a hot surface to the air. The Zalman basically funnels the rising heat into a cylinder which the fan blows out of your case. Watercooling works in basically the same fashon. A copper block causes heat to rise, however insted of a fan blowing the air out of the case, water is forced into a maze inside the block. The heat transferes into the cold water and is pumped away to be radiated out of the case again.

Cheers
Cameron

Re: whats the best cooling?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:25 pm
by yf
thay have now rhe CNPS9700 is it better?

Thanks so much!

YF

Re: whats the best cooling?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:04 pm
by ctjoyce
The 9700 is okay, but its bigger and heavier. It does cool a little bit more, but not all that much more. In my oppinion only 18mm isn't going to cool that much better.

Cheers
Cameron

Re: whats the best cooling?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:45 am
by congo
The 9700 appears to have a much greater surface area though due to it's slightly larger diameter, As long as it will fit into the case  :)

Re: whats the best cooling?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:50 pm
by Viper22
If you have a 939 processor, get the 9700, if you have an LGA 775 processor, get a 9500.  Those are the best Zalman heatsinks in my opinion.  I can't really afford the 9500 for my processor though, so I think I'm gonna have to go with the Arctic Freezer 7

Re: whats the best cooling?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:18 pm
by ctjoyce
If you have a 939 processor, get the 9700, if you have an LGA 775 processor, get a 9500.  Those are the best Zalman heatsinks in my opinion.  I can't really afford the 9500 for my processor though, so I think I'm gonna have to go with the Arctic Freezer 7


Why, the CNPS7000Cu is much better.

Cheers
Cameron

Re: whats the best cooling?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:40 pm
by Viper22
sorry got my numbers wrong. hehe ;D

Re: whats the best cooling?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:57 am
by congo
You should find that the mainboard will be the limiting factor on the Conroe 6800 overclock yf.

Because of that, Air Cooling with a good cooler such as a Thermaltake Big Typhoon or one of the better Zalman coolers like the 9700 or even a 9500 will keep the cpu cool enough for a max overclock.

I believe many people using the conroe cpu's are not having to add too much Vcore (core voltage) to get a good overclock.

Adding Vcore is what causes the cpu to heat up and it's also what causes the cpu to wear out, so minimum Vcore at max o/clock is what it's all about. I suspect many a Conroe will get max overclock straight from the supplied stock cooler.

I run a max overclock on my CPU with the stock cooler, heat is not the issue, my cpu just won't go any faster and that's it  :P

Re: whats the best cooling?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:45 am
by ctjoyce
Your on a Conroe? Wow, wish I knew. Yea the CNPS-9500 is more than enough to cool it. When Maximum PC did their overclocking tests on the X6800 they turned off the fan on the CNPS-9500 and they still couldn't get it over 48*C when at load. And that was with a 3.8Ghz Overclock if I remember right.

Cheers
Cameron

Re: whats the best cooling?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:08 am
by cheesegrater
The next rig I build will be 100% passively cooled. Not one fan. Just for the fun of it.