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AMD Cpus

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:03 am
by Viper22
Ok so I am getting a new comp soon, but I need some help, what is the best processor to go with?

http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=4534

I like this but what is the difference between this and this?

http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=4744

keep in mind these could be used for running windows vista and flight sim x, so maybe I should go with a 5200?

Im pretty confused so help would be great.

Re: AMD Cpus

PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:33 am
by cheesegrater
If you are spending that much on a CPU, get a Conroe (Intel Core 2 Duo).

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php? ... ture=Intel

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php? ... ture=Intel

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php? ... ture=Intel

Conroe are the fastest processors on the market.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/sh ... spx?i=2802

To me Socket AM2 is really not worth it because the RAM and mobos cost so much, you might as well go for the much faster Conroe.

Re: AMD Cpus

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:33 pm
by Viper22
Ok I either like the AMD X2 AM2 5000 or 5200 or the Intel Core 2 Duo E6600.  I can't decide though.  All my friends have great AMD systems and want me to get that one, though the Core 2 Duo looks more impressive.  Is it better for gaming than the AMD.  Heres the other thing, the E6600 is 2.4ghz while the 5000 2.6ghz, but the E6600 has more installed memory 4mb.  Is that more of an advantage?

Also it says the amd processor has 90nm architecture, while the duo has 65nm architecture.  What exactly is this and what advantage does it give?

Re: AMD Cpus

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:38 pm
by congo
There is a gobstopping amount of info on how the Conroe is a superior cpu for gaming and just about everthing else. That being said, the conroe platform is still a tad immature, and if you need help, maybe your AMD friends can assist you with an AMD based rig.

CPU speed doesn't mean that much anymore, it's all about architecture.

When a chip manufacturing process gets smaller, it allows more stuff to be packed into a tighter space, has a potentially faster clockspeed, lower power consumption and less heat generation compared to a larger manufacturing process.

Technology is getting better and manufacturing processes smaller, the size of the process is limited by our physical ability to build such tiny objects and make them work, ie. millions of transistors etc the size of fingernail.

CPU's and other components are built up in layers, it takes power to transmit signals between these layers and the power generates heat and takes time to transmit signals. Smaller processes allow for greater efficiency of the data exchange within the chip itself.

The difference between a 3800+ cpu and a 5200+...... clockspeed. This is why you see people overclocking their machines, they buy a 3800+ and run it at 5200+ speeds, saving a wallet full of cash in the process, at least that's the theory....

Now, this is where the conroe is an exceptional CPU, it's overclocking ability. Besides being faster at stock clockspeeds, the Conroe is proving that it has abundant overclocking headroom, meaning they can almost certainly handle a lot more speed than they are factory set to run at.

The overclocking ability is built into the cpu, it's the motherboard that determines whether you will be able to take advantage of that ability, which is why you see me waffling on about mainboards all the time. This applies to all platforms, not just Conroe.

Re: AMD Cpus

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:56 pm
by Viper22
Sounds good, I am going to wait abit, but maybe the conroe is for me.  Thanks for the help ;D