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More new pc advice (CT this may be for you)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 4:07 am
by Politically Incorrect
Ok here it is.
My neighbor lady is wanting to buy a desktop and a laptop.

the desktop will be used for mapping software for surveying purposes, this i know needs ram so 1 gig is probably a good start as 512 on the last machine would die once the software fired up. This pc will probably be used mainly by her son who is wanting to surf the web, listen to music etc...
She is looking into pre-built kits from Staples, Best Buy etc and would like spending no more than $700 if possible. Any recomendations?

Here is where I am having trouble helping her, it seems most store bought pcs are aimed at media users which in this case will be her son. Most store boughts contain Windows Media Edition ( I know nothing about this OS).
I am thinking for her mapping software, the better security and memory management she really wants Windows XP Pro, would this be a good assumption? Or do you think Media Edition would suffice?

The second pc will be a laptop, again less than $700 would be prefered, it will be used mainly for office applications, and maybe for writing code both programming and web design. She is taking the same class as i am and for the programming we are starting with Visual Basic 2005, I know my lappy can handle it but want to be certain hers can. And since I am uncertain how much power if any is needed for programing this is where i am confused. (my rigs always have power to do about anything lol)

But the biggest factor would be battery life since it will be used "in the field", needs to also have wireless connection.

I have only delt with gaming rigs, my laptop is a gaming rig so something like it isnt feasable.

I have configured and priced many laptops and average about $700-$800, some at Dell and HP, i have looked at the local Staples (they are too expensive for what they offer) and Walmarts.

But I wonder about CPUs. It won't be used for extreme gaming so that isnt a factor.
Which is a good choice when it comes to office or professional tasks, offer good power savings etc?

I have read Pentium M to be the best for power savings, are these good for multi tasking?
What about Solo Core? or the average Pentium D?

AMDs Im uncertain about due to the power useage.

What is needed is at least 1 gig RAM, good portability and light weight (14" screen under 6 lbs in that area)
Prefer a screen that doesn't second as a mirror (why is it that the glossy screen is so big now I think it sucks)
Again all the ones found at local stores contain Win Media Center or XP Home so XP pro would be a benifit, wireless already built in, a good size hard drive 80gig+. And a low cost.

there are so many options out there I am confused as to building a good business/programming setup so help in this area is appreciated.

I was almost thinking of giving a eMachines a try, a local "techy" stated that they build a good laptop and for $300 it has most components made of good quality and after adding some good RAM can rate with the high price models. But I wonder about upgrade capibility after all the last eMachine that I attempted to help someone with ended up in the trash, lmao.
But if what he says is true I could buy one and then order some parts at a good cost via Newegg or Tiger Direct and end up with a good low cost machine. Of course though he also told me 256mb of RAM will be enough for any laptop, so i don't know and trust the advice here more than him ;)

Re: More new pc advice (CT this may be for you)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:50 am
by ctjoyce
Lets start with the Desktop. For what she looks to want to do I suggest the HP a1550y (If I'm remembering correctly). Intel Pentium D 820, 1GB of RAM, 250GB HDD, and Staples sells the kit that includes a 17" HP LCD monitor. This retails for $799.99 Which considering the fact that it has the monitor is a excellent deal. If its still too much then the a1520 will do. Same specs, just a 3800+ x2 insted of the PD, and no monitor. Ithor way they will run all the software both her and her son want beautifuly, and there is two more DDR2 / DDR (depending on the rig) slots open for a second gig). It also has a graphics expansion (if I remember right its PCI-E) so for DX10 or any heavy visuals they will be able to add a card.

For the laptop I suggest the dv2000 series from HP. Excellent book at a great price. The only problem is that you will have to order one online, as getting one storebought with the spec you are looking for will cost between $900~1100. Staples has the dv2030us on sale right now for $950 and a $50 rebate, which for a T2200 Centrino duo, 1GB RAM, 100GB hdd, 14" LCD, dual layer DVD burner + Lightscribe, and a built in webcam is a great deal.

On the OS: Windows media center edition is Home, it just has a different skin, and media center. Which is basically beefed up WMP. Some people like it, I could care less. However you dont need pro, unless she wants to do advanced networking or she wants to put some serious limitations on her son's account.

Cheers
Cameron

Re: More new pc advice (CT this may be for you)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:28 pm
by Mees
$700?

Athlon 3800+ X2
1GB Ram
6800GT
250GB HDD
DVD burner

?

:)

Re: More new pc advice (CT this may be for you)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:54 pm
by cheesegrater
6800GT is like $200. I don't think this is a gaming PC anyways.

Re: More new pc advice (CT this may be for you)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:45 pm
by Politically Incorrect
Thanks for the replies.

CT I will have a look at the desktops you mentioned, that sounds good for her price range as for the laptop she was worried about it since after me buying the ASUS you recommended awhile back (which BTW still kicks butt) that I wouldn't be able to find a good "business pc".

Well we went out to the Best Buy a ways away today and I came across a Compaq Presario V3015 with a AMD Turion the guy said I should easily get about 3 hours battery life gaming and more just using office apps etc..

Besides the shiney screen this is a beatuiful laptop looks really nice. Has a 1Gig Ram, 80 gig HD, Lightscribe super multi DVD , and some other goodies, along with Nvidia graphics. Windows XP Home. About everything she wanted except for the specific OS.

On sale at $799, so since she was debating buying it I decided to for myself (goes off sale tommorow) LMAO!

Of course it fired up and now there is the task of cleaning all the crud from it. It doesn't come with any CDs at all! So I making a recovery set just incase and after that I will delete the recovery partition and all the unwanted fluff software that is pre installed.

Then its off to the MS website to check for updates, as well as the HP site (may wait until tomorrow and find a wireless hotspot to do this and check battery life ;) Im not expecting much from the 6 cell so I will be hitting the sites to see if there is a 12 cell available.

I will post my battery life after I calibrate.

And will most definatly hit Staples tomorrow to look into those you listed.
Thanks again!