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SLI pci-express

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:34 pm
by ubntfp
I recently read that you canot playt FS on a dual raid SLI graphics?

Is this true?

I am wanting to build a new pc and was going base it on PCI raid  for FS, if this is not possible then it opens up other boards and cheaper prices.

Can anyone advise, I would like to build amd (Maybe 3700 Viene) with 1 to 2 Gig ram on Sata HD's

Cheers

Re: SLI pci-express

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:05 pm
by born_2_fly
If I'm not mistaken, you can play FS on dual SLI cards, but FS simply will not benefit. That is something that FSX will hopefully incorporate.

Fungers crossed

Cheers,
Alex

Re: SLI pci-express

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:40 pm
by NicksFXHouse
Vista and FSX will take full advantage of dual/quad core processors and quad SLI

There is a way to run FS9 with a dual core GPU and/or SLI but it does not provide 100% full support as defined by SLI.

Re: SLI pci-express

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:41 pm
by NicksFXHouse
[quote]I recently read that you canot playt FS on a dual raid SLI graphics?

Is this true?

I am wanting to build a new pc and was going base it on PCI raid

Re: SLI pci-express

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 6:24 pm
by ubntfp
Thank gooness for that, lookin forward to some decent fps, current average is 16 20 unless I go high and look from below, then I can get about 40 fps.

Just waiting for AMD to bring their prices down then of I go to the shops :-)

Re: SLI pci-express

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:34 pm
by PisTon
I'd say SLI is a waste of money, get one good high qaulity card, instead of doubling the graphics card price of 1.5x the performance. It's simply not worth it unless you have lots of money.

IMO, get a Core 2 duo or dual core AM2, and a single x1900Xt or similar.

Oh, there is no such thing as 3700+ Venice. 3700 Sandiago ;)

Vista and FSX will take full advantage of dual/quad core processors and quad SLI

There is a way to run FS9 with a dual core GPU and/or SLI but it does not provide 100% full support as defined by SLI.



No.....
Although the game is multithreaded, it ISN'T optimized for SLI.
http://www.steve-lacey.com/blogarchives ... to_6.shtml
and
http://www.steve-lacey.com/blogarchives ... to_6.shtml

Re: SLI pci-express

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:15 pm
by NicksFXHouse
No.....
Although the game is multithreaded, it ISN'T optimized for SLI.
http://www.steve-lacey.com/blogarchives ... to_6.shtml
and
http://www.steve-lacey.com/blogarchives ... to_6.shtml



I did not say it was optimized, supported it or anything close to it... what I said was there was a way to use an SLI rig with FS9 but FS9 will not support SLI. Just as born_2_fly made the same comment.

There is a difference and I am correct in my statement.

The main question was about FS9 but the follow up was about FSX. Again, my statement was correct.

And if one saves and by next year can afford it, DX10 quad SLI are slated to become the norm over the next 2 years for high end video games and not for just FSX.


@ ubntfp
If you are purchasing for Vista and FSX you are better off waiting however if you cannot wait, purchase an SLI motherboard, a dual processor, 2 gigs of high performance memory and a video card that supports SLI so you can add another one in a year or so.

If you cannot wait until next year when DX10 arrives, with FSX you WILL want a 7900 GTX 512 and the motherboard will allow you to add another next year in SLI. That will upgrade you but you will NOT have any DX10 support unless you shelve the 7900GTX 512 and get a new DX10 card.

(if you only playing Re: SLI pci-express

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:55 am
by PisTon
But the game won't take full advantage of SLI, as fs9 didn't and developers have said they won't make the game take advantage of it.

Some games have little benifit of SLI and fs9 is one of them.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2004/11/23/ ... age20.html
Why pay twice the price for that!? (if you only playing fs9) Browse through them pages and tell me if you think it's worth it.

But are you shore you need quad DX10 SLI to run a game maxed? I could just max fs2004 on a single fx5900. Same situation.

And DX10 has 6-8 times power of DX9. Wow. Quad DX10 SLI would be amazing.

Re: SLI pci-express

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:03 am
by Politically Incorrect
But the game won't take full advantage of SLI, as fs9 didn't and developers have said they won't make the game take advantage of it.


Nick has already stated it twice to you.

I run FS9 in SLi , as already stated by Nick it FS9 can't utilize SLi to its full potential but SLi does work with it and does a nice job, using SLi AA.
But if you play other games and not only FS9 you can benefit greatly from it so why not go SLi especially since FSX and most games on the market today can use it?

Now is not the time to limit yourself just due to FS9 alone too much coming in the future, that can take advantage of stuff such as this so why not be ready ;)

Posting links to Tom's benchmarks kill me, so many think of that as "Gods Word", lmao.

Re: SLI pci-express

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:43 am
by congo
Here is a link to help you find out what RAID is. It's nothing to do with graphics but rather a method of data storage.

RAID 0 is the fastest type of raid and can increase game performance by being able to access required data off multiple hard disks faster than a single hard drive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#RAID_0

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:31 am
by NicksFXHouse
But are you shore you need quad DX10 SLI to run a game maxed?

And DX10 has 6-8 times power of DX9. Wow. Quad DX10 SLI would be amazing.



How do I know? Well, I have been testing on VISA for quite some time and there are advantages to being a paid and contracted tester for Microsoft. It allows one access to the beta of other projects that cannot be discussed under any circumstances until 12 midnight on the day of their official release.

Re: SLI pci-express

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:26 pm
by richardd43
How do I know? Well, I have been testing on VISA for quite some time and there are advantages to being a paid and contracted tester for Microsoft. It allows one access to the beta of other projects that cannot be discussed under any circumstances until 12 midnight on the day of their official release.

I AM SERIOUSLY JEALOUS..........

Re: SLI pci-express

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:32 pm
by NicksFXHouse
I AM SERIOUSLY JEALOUS..........




Shhhhhhhhh!

I said to much already  ;D


It ain't my day job but it sure is fun to have access.

Re: SLI pci-express

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:19 am
by richardd43
LOL, the access was what I was refering to.

Re: SLI pci-express

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:28 pm
by NicksFXHouse

Posting links to Tom's benchmarks kill me, so many think of that as "Gods Word", lmao.






Although Tom has gotten a bit better about bias reports since 2003, the site still tends to lean toward whoever has the most palm grease.

I remember when Tom would push Intel in benchmarks and reports when AMD clearly wiped Intel. Intel advertisements on the site were notoriously popping up during AMD product reviews which always questioned the AMD performance over intel... until finally he had no choice but to give in or be exposed.

Toms a whore, always has been, always will be.