Good Setup For Vista?

[lintonam]

Would this be a good vista setup? And what would need to be changed to run FSX?

Case: Centurion 5 Cooler Master
PSU: Ultra X-Finity 500w PSU Titanium Blue
CPU:AMD 3800+ Socket AM2
MoBo: MSI K9N Platinum
RAM: 1GB OCZ PC4200 DDR2
HD: 320 GB Seagate HD Sata 16MBL2 Cache
Video Card: GeForce 6800XT 256MB GDDR3(Temporary)

Hoping to have all parts purchased within the next couple of months

[Mees]

You'll better get a AMD Athlon 4000+ or a X2 4200+ if you have the money to spend, but the GFX card isn't a DXT10 compliant, neither will my new one be though (7900GTX 512MB)

[ctjoyce]

Grab 2GB of RAM and a dual core processer. Then you'll be good.

Cheers
Cameron

[NicksFXHouse]

Would this be a good vista setup? And what would need to be changed to run FSX?

Case: Centurion 5 Cooler Master
PSU: Ultra X-Finity 500w PSU Titanium Blue
CPU:AMD 3800+ Socket AM2
MoBo: MSI K9N Platinum
RAM: 1GB OCZ PC4200 DDR2
HD: 320 GB Seagate HD Sata 16MBL2 Cache
Video Card: GeForce 6800XT 256MB GDDR3(Temporary)

Hoping to have all parts purchased within the next couple of months

Wait until AUGUST... the AMD 5000+ will be reduced in price to under 500 bucks... you will then have a dual core processor with almost the same performance as a FX62.. well woth the investment and VISTA wants a dual core in the system.

2 gigs of very high quality memory would be best...

[Sukhoi_37]

I would change the motherboard (K9N Platinum) Many Newegg reviews claim that the chipset heatsink is way too weak, and is prone to overheating. If you want a 570 Ultra chipset, try the ASUS M2N-E. I have one (Check the sig) and it performs well. Also if you get RAM, check some of the Corsair XMS stuff. Newegg just lowered the 1GB (PC2-6400) set to $104, and the 2GB (PC2-6400) set to $200. Excellent memory.

[freedomhays]

ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.40 Ghz (Conroe), mines pre ordered, running pentium 930 D till it arrives...................
http://www.tankguys.biz/intel-core-e660 ... -1671.html

also running Crucial Technology Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820146565

you wiil definatly be ready for anything with this, depending on your power supply and graphics card..................

 

[machineman9]

get the VISTA tester, it tells u if ur pc will handle vista

[ctjoyce]

First off learn to speak english (I know its hardware, but 1337 sp33k isn't accepted here), second off learn the world of hardware.

The vista tester will tell anyone that they can run vista. I tried  it on a P3 1.1Ghz w/ 256MB of ram and a 20GB HDD. So the vista tester wouln't tell you anything you want to know.

For now its dual core processer, 2GB of RAM, and a good video card until DX10 comes out.

Cheers
Cameron

[NicksFXHouse]

get the VISTA tester, it tells u if ur pc will handle vista

I am a vista tester... since Wayyyyyyyy back


I'll put it like this...

Did a Geforce card back in 2003 run WindowsXP and 3Dmark 03? Yes

Did it run 3Dmark 03 at its best?

[congo]

I just set Vista to a Win'98 style "Classic" interface and it seems on the surface to behave almost identically to WinXP set to similar settings.

Trimmed right back, Vista in it's Beta 2 form uses some 400mb of ram on it's own, so it's a memory hog.

Why? Because it's running a lot of complex background tasks, monitoring, reporting etc.

Do you need that? No, at least not until you are forced by compatibility issues.

Do I want Vista? Not as I reviewed it in it's Beta2 form.
Quite frankly, it's monitoring and reporting functions give me the creeps. I won't go online with it installed out of principle.

I also don't percieve any advantage is using Vista at this time. 400mb of ram to get the OS up and running? What the heck is it doing? My first guess is selling ram....

A lesson learnt from running FS9 is to streamline the OS as much as possible in order for maximum application performance, this isn't possible with the current version of Vista, (at least I haven't been able to achieve it and maintain stability).

Back to hardware, as mentioned above, Vista is not too concerned about your hardware, regardless of the hype you hear about. If you want to dedicate your hardware to running the most over-bloated, unnecessary and prying OS ever devised, by all means, spend up bigtime.

Do you need better hardware for Vista? It would help.

Ask yourself seriously if you want to have Microsoft constantly monitoring you and your computer and reporting your activities to their clients (whoever they may be) before you consider installing Vista just so you can say, "I have Vista".

What concerns me is that in these relatively "safe" times, people have become complacent about privacy, and pretty much accepted the whole "Big Brother is Watching You" thing with not enough thought to the abuse such technology is prone to. If the technology is abused or usurped by government or other powers, it will give those abusers unprecedented power over the PC using population and their associates. A veiled Pandora. A rose by any other name. Vista is a thorned beauty.

All the time Microsoft is trying to make us all feel safe, (I recieved yet another mail from them today headlining security issues), they give us all the ULTIMATE SPYWARE* as an operating system. It seems security breaches are only important when they are not under MS control.

* I say this simply because there is no option to disable it or practical method that I'm aware of. Attempting to disable these functions results in the failure or compromise of the OS.

Perhaps the US legislature will not allow changes to our privacy laws that protect us from such breaches of our inaliable rights, perhaps not. Perhaps privacy laws in your country will protect you from Vista including such monitoring software, perhaps not.

Please remember that I am commenting on the Vista Beta2 recent release, Vista is not yet available as a commercial product. The concerns I have may not be valid in the final release version of Vista, depending somewhat on our elected represenatives who's decisions will prevail regarding the legality of this software.

[NicksFXHouse]

I just set Vista to a Win'98 style "Classic" interface and it seems on the surface to behave almost identically to WinXP set to similar settings.

Trimmed right back, Vista in it's Beta 2 form uses some 400mb of ram on it's own, so it's a memory hog.

Why? Because it's running a lot of complex background tasks, monitoring, reporting etc.

Do you need that? No, at least not until you are forced by compatibility issues.

Do I want Vista? Not as I reviewed it in it's Beta2 form.
Quite frankly, it's monitoring and reporting functions give me the creeps. I won't go online with it installed out of principle.

I also don't percieve any advantage is using Vista at this time. 400mb of ram to get the OS up and running? What the heck is it doing? My first guess is selling ram....

A lesson learnt from running FS9 is to streamline the OS as much as possible in order for maximum application performance, this isn't possible with the current version of Vista, (at least I haven't been able to achieve it and maintain stability).

Back to hardware, as mentioned above, Vista is not too concerned about your hardware, regardless of the hype you hear about. If you want to dedicate your hardware to running the most over-bloated, unnecessary and prying OS ever devised, by all means, spend up bigtime.

Do you need better hardware for Vista? It would help.

Ask yourself seriously if you want to have Microsoft constantly monitoring you and your computer and reporting your activities to their clients (whoever they may be) before you consider installing Vista just so you can say, "I have Vista".

What concerns me is that in these relatively "safe" times, people have become complacent about privacy, and pretty much accepted the whole "Big Brother is Watching You" thing with not enough thought to the abuse such technology is prone to. If the technology is abused or usurped by government or other powers, it will give those abusers unprecedented power over the PC using population and their associates. A veiled Pandora. A rose by any other name. Vista is a thorned beauty.

All the time Microsoft is trying to make us all feel safe, (I recieved yet another mail from them today headlining security issues), they give us all the ULTIMATE SPYWARE* as an operating system. It seems security breaches are only important when they are not under MS control.

* I say this simply because there is no option to disable it or practical method that I'm aware of. Attempting to disable these functions results in the failure or compromise of the OS.

Perhaps the US legislature will not allow changes to our privacy laws that protect us from such breaches of our inaliable rights, perhaps not. Perhaps privacy laws in your country will protect you from Vista including such monitoring software, perhaps not.

Please remember that I am commenting on the Vista Beta2 recent release, Vista is not yet available as a commercial product. The concerns I have may not be valid in the final release version of Vista, depending somewhat on our elected represenatives who's decisions will prevail regarding the legality of this software.

I agree with what you are saying... the issue is relative to the times

Back when the automobile was becoming a common item many complained about being required to have a license and register the vehicle with the government (local or otherwise). The exact same privacy issues were fought and argued. The fact of the matter is the automobile stoked big business, the largest being big oil companies.., road construction, tax revenues; you name it... and because of that and the fact that driving a car places one in a position to do harm to someone else (physical or otherwise), driving and owning a car was classified a privilege and not a right. The precedent has been set.

The use of the internet is a privilege, not a right, and therefore licensing and other monitoring is legal and will become the norm. Automobiles are already transmitting data and that practice will expand in the next 5-10 years to every car on the road.

I do not like it any more than you do but times are changing and so must I.

Our children

[NicksFXHouse]

Getting back to the subject of the thread

[richardd43]

[quote]and those rediculous 7950's up...

[ctjoyce]

But the 7950 being rediculous, WRONG.

Well than being the owner of a 7900, and a 7950 than you can surely tell us that the image quality and preformance of the two cards is almost exactly the same. Two cores and 1GB of RAM is infact rediculous, there is no need for it, and a 7900GTX 512MB SLi setup outpreformed it. So you really have no base for trying to say that the 7950GX2 that much better than a 7900GTX.

As for ATi vs nVidia, nVidia has the best single card benchmarks, and ATi for some reason has the better dual card setup benchmarks.

Cheers
Cameron

[richardd43]

[quote]Well than being the owner of a 7900, and a 7950 than you can surely tell us that the image quality and preformance of the two cards is almost exactly the same. Two cores and 1GB of RAM is infact rediculous, there is no need for it, and a 7900GTX 512MB SLi setup outpreformed it. So you really have no base for trying to say that the 7950GX2 that much better than a 7900GTX.