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Vista. Can your system make the cut?

Postby ctjoyce » Sun May 07, 2006 5:22 pm

So my new Maximum PC came yesterday, and only just now did I get a chance to actually read the darn thing.

My main focous was their vista section, and they had a very intresting article about Vista giving your system a benchmark, and then ajusting itself accordingly. They benched a few systems, and here are the outcomes (1 = bare minimum, 5= top notch).

Intel 955, 7800 GTX, 2GB RAM: 5

FX-55, X1800XL, 1GB: 4

Pentium D 3.2, 6800GT, 2GB: 3

Athlon Xp 3200+, 9700 pro, 512 RAM: 2

2GHz pentium 4, Radeom 9500, 512RAM: 1

So thats the breakdown. I figure that my system is probibly a 3, but looking at these figures, my next system will be a 5.

Now aparently these are the bare minimums for each number. Any less and you will decrease a rank.

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Re: Vista. Can your system make the cut?

Postby Politically Incorrect » Mon May 08, 2006 3:25 am

I still think there are too many unknowns with Vista to be sure about anything. My PC should have no trouble with it.

But from what I have heard/read Vista won't be adding too much more than more resource hungry eye candy and if that is the case I will stick with XP for a few more years.
Im not one to buy a new OS anyway until a year or so after its release, i prefer to wait for the fixes ;)

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Re: Vista. Can your system make the cut?

Postby ctjoyce » Mon May 08, 2006 10:51 am

Well what you need to understand is that you are going to need to update no matter what you do. With all games switching to DX10, your going to need to be in the market for new GPUs anyway.

Your rank though, looks like a high 3 or a low 4.

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Re: Vista. Can your system make the cut?

Postby NicksFXHouse » Mon May 08, 2006 11:37 am

Vista may be delayed again... The orders came down from the top to eliminate features in order to hit the release date. Also, The performance index shown above is mainly the result of the video adapter + memory bandwidth more than any other part of the system.


...and I agree that at this point Vista is nothing but a bloated blob of memory-eating eye candy. Driver support is horrible and unless that changes fast I can see another delay taking place.
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Re: Vista. Can your system make the cut?

Postby ctjoyce » Mon May 08, 2006 4:01 pm

Well we have known from the start that Vista is just a way for MS to pimp the latest tech of all the companys.

But back to the point, its just more ammo to my arguement. We are all going to need to upgrade for vista wether or not we like it. Also remember that MS is cutting XP support 1 year after the launch of Vista, thus they are forceing the market into it. Sorry boys.

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Re: Vista. Can your system make the cut?

Postby Politically Incorrect » Tue May 09, 2006 3:39 am

Also remember that MS is cutting XP support 1 year after the launch of Vista, thus they are forceing the market into it. Sorry boys.

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Re: Vista. Can your system make the cut?

Postby congo » Tue May 09, 2006 4:00 am

Vista is just in time, XP is finally running great on my rig.
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Re: Vista. Can your system make the cut?

Postby elite marksman » Thu May 11, 2006 7:25 pm

I think I'll wait with XP for awhile. My current system probably rates around a -5 or so.
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Re: Vista. Can your system make the cut?

Postby 4_Series_Scania » Thu May 11, 2006 7:40 pm

Vista is just in time, XP is finally running great on my rig.


Pretty much  my view mate, Vista will have to be pretty damn superb to tempt me away from XP ( I still pine for good old '98 )  ;) ;D
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Re: Vista. Can your system make the cut?

Postby congo » Sun May 14, 2006 6:16 pm

I think we'll all find that the PC industry as a whole will more or less force a Vista changeover, but this remains to be seen of course.

What is the most worrying trend and indeed concern for me personally, is that the new OS and associated third party programs will be dependant on an internet connection for automated tasks/updates/configuration.......

......... this really is the issue for me, losing control of the OS and behaviour of programs. I want to run my machine, I don't want anyone else to do it for me.

The current situation is that it took a very long time to get XP under control where I am satisfied I have most, (perhaps 95% or more), functions of my PC under direct control.

If Vista is an "improvement" over XP, I can only deduce that it will be a nightmare of hidden directories, files and functions, god help us all.
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Re: Vista. Can your system make the cut?

Postby Brett_Henderson » Sun May 14, 2006 9:52 pm

We need a good simulator that runs in a LINUX environment..  That's about all that's keeping me from partnering with the penguin..   ;)
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Re: Vista. Can your system make the cut?

Postby ctjoyce » Sun May 14, 2006 10:14 pm

Linux is open source mate, no good software for it in site ;) Personally in my poot of Vista it really did take protecting yourself from yourself to a whole new level. However the Vista Ultamate, or whatever the XP Pro equivelant is, is suppost to be for people who know what their doing, and therefor not going to have all that crap. Only time will tell.

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Re: Vista. Can your system make the cut?

Postby Brett_Henderson » Mon May 15, 2006 10:27 am

There's plenty of good software for LINUX.. just not much in the gaming way..

I was a XENIX Sys-Adm back before LANs were cool  8)  and trying to get Windows machines to work together was an exercise in futility.. (and most computers were still DOS/menu driven batch-file desktops). I've since played with LINUX quite a bit and am pretty familiar with it..

M$ is setting up the whole PC world for a dark year.. Sales will lag as people wait on Vista and when M$ sees a cash-low dilema.. WE'RE usually the ones who suffer.

The next 12 months are gonna be interesting..
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Re: Vista. Can your system make the cut?

Postby ctjoyce » Mon May 15, 2006 1:42 pm

Well mabe for software, but as far as hardware, developers are pretty much ready to ship. ATi and nVidia have their chips pretty much together, and the nForce 5 boards hit the shelves in 10 days (AM2 and Conroe support). anyway, the next 12 months will only be hurting one person, my wallet.

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Re: Vista. Can your system make the cut?

Postby kipman725 » Mon May 15, 2006 4:28 pm

My linux systems are so much more advanced than my windows box it's not even funny:

My linux systems NEVER need defraging

They NEVER get viruses

I can chose what parts of the OS I want, no gui no

problem, fancy 3d gui no problem

Program crashes? just kill it and the systems still running fine

If a big security bug is found (very rarley) then the patch is out there within a day for most popular open source software.

Servers run rock steady, I once ran a pc for two months while under 100% cpu load the whole time without it crashing (it was serving webpages, ftp and running Jon the ripper)

Aplications can be even easier to install than there windows counterparts, for example using apt-get installing and downloading an aplication can be donw graphicly in a few clicks wheras an installer has to be manualy run on windows.

As for linux compatible flight simulators may I point you in the direction of flight gear: http://www.flightgear.org/index.shtml
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