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Does that mean in theory that i could achieve 3.8Ghz if i o/c my system?  or have i totally misunderstood?

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I'm not real sure but thats what it looks like to me. My 2 cents...

Mike

That program is similar to Everest

the speeds grades that your cpu core has been released at?

3.8ghz is the fastest stock clocked prescot core chip and 2.4 sounds like the loweset end one? (posibly labled as a celron)

one way to find out  ;)





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i'd love to find out.  but i dont have the first clue about overclocking cpus'  

i'd love to find out.  but i dont have the first clue about overclocking cpus'  

First hint that you shouldn't do it  ;D

Second hint, BIOS

Third hint, Remember to add voltage,

Cheers
Cameron (who is sitting on his 3.9Ghz system right now)

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First hint that you shouldn't do it

At least not until you understand it.

Exactly that is what i was trying to state, i have read a bunch on it but still not comfortable or knowledgeable to attempt it.

Lol, well I've been put in the spotlight so here goes.

Overclocking is a method of makeing your CPU faster than it is stock by increasing the core MHZ or multiplyer (however the multiplyer is very difficult to do, and very dangerous). Power users such as myself use overclocking to get the absolute most out of our chips, and to brag to our mates about how fast we can get our rigs.

How to:
It is rathar simple actually. Enter your BIOS (usually by hitting DEL during startup). Scroll to the menu that has a title about tweaking. (Something like "Advanced M.I.T Tweaking"). Once inside you should be presented with a few options. First we need to enable the clock gen (usually twards the top of the page). Next its time to do the actual clock. This is where math is involved. You must first figure out your multiplyer, then decide what clock you want. Personally my multiplyer is x17, so if I want to achieve a 4Ghz overclock I would use a core clock of 236Mhz (236 x 17 = 4012, then add in a decimal after the first number, so 4.012Ghz is the outcome). Grats, your processer is now has its new clock, but for a stable clock your gonna need to overvolt, so that your processer has enough power to keep going. You really have to fiddle here to figure out what you need. My stock 3.4Ghz was at 1.375V, and my 4.01Ghz is at 1.550V. My theory is about +0.025V for every 100Mhz. Okay your done, save and restart your bios (usually F10) and you will boot up. If you dont, your stock clock will be restored. This means there wasn't enough plower to the CPU, so readjust your voltage, and start again.

Heat:
This is a huge factor in overclocking. Yes you could have a 800Mhz overclock, however you will most likely cause a huge amount of heat damage to the chip (assuming that your computer allows you to even boot up with temps that high). There are a few ways to get rid of the heat in your case. The first is basic, a quick cable tidy (see my case) should get air flowing better in your system, and drop your temps about 1 or 2C The next best thing is to apply high end thermalpaste to your CPU. I reccomend Artic Silver 5 (about a drop of 4~5C) or Artic Cremeque (about 5~6C drop). Now this is a good solution for small clocks such as 100~ 200MHZ but I dont reccomend you go much higher. The third, and best way to cool your system is to change the heatsink on your CPU. Air, Water, and Vap Chill are the three main things used to do this. Air is usually the cheapest and easiest. A Zalman CNPS-7000Cu will cost you $30ish and drop your temps about 5~7C. Not only that, but will keep your range (Idle to Load) a decent 10~12 degrese insted of stock sinks that can range 20+ The best air cooler on the market to date is the Zalman CNPS-9500 (the cooler I use) This coupled with AS5 dropped my temps from about 42C idle (stock clock, stock cooling) to 23C idle (stock clock). I am now running a 600Mhz overclock at 34C idle. For the extreem chill look to vap chill, or water cooling. I dont really know how well, or much less how vap chill works so I'm not going to talk about it, however Water is the grail. Stock temps at 10C, and load at 20C will make anyone drool. However leave it to the expirts. Watercooling is very expensive, and will rouin your computer if set up wrong.

Another thing we need to consider is the north bridge. I couldn't get past 3.97Ghz before I switched my cooler, as the northbridge was overheating.Zalman or Swiftech are the ways to go here.


Well there you have it, how to overclock your system. Also know if you have a ASUS NF4 board there is a windows clock gen that you can use to overclock, however I am not firmilliar with this so it wasn't included.

I take no responsability if you screw up, and break / melt your PC.

Cheers
Cameron

I take no responsability if you screw up, and break / melt your PC.

Cheers
Cameron

Ah, yes, the disclaimer, that's what I was waitng for, good lad  

Very interesting reading and easy to understand, more so than most stuff I read so far.

Question is what are the real improvements if any will you see besides numbers?

Is it a matter of frame rates? Benchmarks etc.

Or a real noticible difference such as games running better, or your ability to type faster lol.

This is where Im confused.
My set up for example is what i consider extremly fast, run any application or games without a hicup, start up or shut downs in matter of seconds, low temps even after hours of gaming etc..

I have had some tell me that I should OC both the CPU and Video Cards, but my theory is why if it is running flawless as is. They say more power but I don't understand what for, and then the magic words from my best buddy finally came,  "becasue you can and then brag about it" LMAO

Well I haven't yet becasue I don't understand what the advantages are compared to what i got now, BUT I completely understand the disadvantages if done wrong

Maybe someone can explain what the benifits are over doing such a procedure?

It depends on what you percieve as a benefit. People do it for different reasons.

I only do it so I can fly sims without system lag and display problems and also so I can use better display settings. So far I'm still struggling to get more fluid performance in my sims, otherwise I wouldn't bother except perhaps just to test out what it's capable of.

If your system is running perfect with all your apps, you have no need.

I get a 30% increase in my cpu power and a 10% graphics boost, and to me, it's worth taking 15 seconds to overclock from my desktop just prior to a game.

A side affect to overclocking is the knowledge you gain about the hardware. Once you have this knowledge, you have some advantage when it comes to purchasing components and diagnosing problems with core hardware. This is probably the most sensible argument for it other than a desperate need for performance.

...me...?
I just buy a better/latest Motherboard, and fit a faster AMD... ... processor to it... ...!
No over-clocking fire hazards/increased insurance premiums/trashed computer, etc...involved...
...sorted... ...!

Paul...all for leaving things as they are......!

LOL... ...!