Hard Drive Partitioning

[Gunny04]

The drive in question, is a Maxtor 120 Gig hard drive Drive D (Slave) Now I need to partition 10 gigs of it for FAT32 so I can stuff Windows 98SE On it and have dual boot (XP is on drive C) So...... FDISK Doesnt wanna detect my D drive so that wont work, any help? I'd love to have an OS where my blasted Wheel was detected, and I have 98SE and it DOES install (I over wrote XP and had to format completely) Cheers, Gunny

[4_Series_Scania]

I used to have my hard drive set up as dual boot, in a nutshell, I found the easiest way I could get '98 and XP singing happily was to install '98 first and then install XP from Windows 98.

This gives you the option of creating a dual boot system leaving '98 as the primary OS (it cannot run from any drive other than C:) and XP as the secondary OS.

Either OS is selectable on boot up.

How To Partition, Format and Install
Partitioning the Hard Disk

After you decide on the file system you want to use, run Fdisk:

1.Place the Windows 98 Startup disk or Boot disk in the floppy disk drive, and then restart your computer.

2.When the Microsoft Windows 98 Startup menu is displayed, choose Start computer without CD-ROM support, and then press ENTER.

3.At the command prompt, type fdisk, and then press ENTER.

4.If your hard disk is larger than 512 MB, the following screen is displayed: Your computer has a disk larger than 512 MB. This version of Windows includes improved support for large disks, resulting in more efficient use of disk space on large drives, and allowing disks over 2 GB to be formatted as a single drive.

IMPORTANT: If you enable large disk support and create any new drives on this disk, you will not be able to access the new drive(s) using other operating systems, including some versions of Windows 95 and Windows NT, as well as earlier versions of Windows and MS-DOS. In addition, disk utilities that were not designated explicitly for the FAT32 file system will not be able to work with this disk. If you need to access this disk with other operating systems or older disk utilities, do no enable large drive support.

Do you wish to enable large disk support (Y/N).............? [Y]

If you want to use the FAT32 file system, press Y and then press ENTER. If you want to use the FAT16 file system, press N, and then press ENTER.

5.After you press ENTER, the Fdisk Options menu is displayed. Press 1 to choose Create DOS partition or Logical DOS Drive, and then press ENTER.

6.Press 1 to choose Create Primary DOS Partition, and then press ENTER.

7.After you press ENTER, the following message is displayed:

Do you wish to use the maximum available size for primary DOS partition?

FAT32 File System

a.If you chose the FAT32 file system in step 4, and you want all of the space on the hard disk to be assigned to drive C, press Y, and then press ENTER.

b.Press ESC twice to quit Fdisk and return to the command prompt.

c.Skip to step 10.

FAT16 File System

a.If you chose the FAT16 file system in step 4, and you want the first 2 GB on the hard disk to be assigned to drive C, press Y, and then press ENTER for yes.

b.Press ESC to return to the Options menu, and then skip to step i.

c.If you want to customize the size of the partitions (drive letters) on the hard disk, press N, and then press ENTER.

d.A dialog box is displayed for you to type the size that you want for the primary partition in megabytes or percent of disk space. Note that for a Windows 98-based computer, Microsoft recommends making the primary partition at least 500 MB. Enter the size of the partition that you want to create, and then press ENTER.

e.Press ESC to return to the Options menu.

f.Press 2 to choose Set active partition, and then press ENTER.

g.The following prompted is displayed: Enter the number of the partition you want to make active.

Press 1, and then press ENTER.

h.Press ESC to return to the Options menu.

i.To assign drive letters to the additional space on the hard disk:

1.Press 1, and then press ENTER .

2.Press 2 to choose Create Extended DOS Partition, and then press ENTER.

3.The dialog box that appears displays the maximum space available for the extended partition. You can adjust the size of the partition or leave it at the default size. Note that the default maximum space is recommended, but the space can be divided between multiple drive letters. Enter the amount of space you want, press ENTER, and then press ESC.

4.The Create Logical DOS Drive(s) in the Extended DOS Partition menu is displayed. This is the menu you use to assign the remaining hard disk space to the additional drive letters. Enter the amount of space you want to assign to the next drive letter in the Enter logical drive size in Mbytes or percent of disk space (%) box, and then press ENTER.

5.A table that lists the drive letter you created and the amount of space in that drive is displayed. If free space still remains on the hard disk, it is displayed near the bottom of the table. Repeat steps 1-4 until you receive the following message:

All available space in the Extended DOS Partition is assigned to local drives

6.After you receive this message, press ESC twice to quit Fdisk and return to the command prompt.

7.After you create the partitions, you must format the partitions. Restart your computer with the EBD in the disk drive.

8.After you have created the partitions, restart you computer with the Windows 98 Startup disk or Boot disk in the floppy disk drive.

9.When the Windows 98 Startup menu is displayed, chose Start computer without CD-ROM support.

[4_Series_Scania]

10.When the command prompt is displayed, type format c:, and then press ENTER.

NOTE: If you receive the message "Bad command or file name," the Format.com utility may need to be extracted to your Boot disk. Type the following command at the command prompt, and then press ENTER: extract ebd.cab format.com

After Format.com is extracted to your Boot Disk and the MS-DOS command prompt is displayed, type format c:.

11.When you run Format.com successfully, the following message is displayed:

WARNING, ALL DATA ON NON-REMOVABLE DISK DRIVE C: WILL BE LOST!

Proceed with Format (Y/N)?

12.Press Y, and then press ENTER to format drive C.

13.After the format is finished, the following message is displayed: Volume label (11 characters, ENTER for none)?

This is an optional feature that you can use to type a name for the hard disk.

Type an 11-character name for the drive, or leave it blank by pressing ENTER.

14.Repeat steps 10-14 for any additional drive letters you created in step i

Installing Windows 98

After you have partitioned and formatted your hard disk, you can install Windows 98:

1.Place the Windows 98 Startup disk or Boot disk in the floppy disk drive, and then restart your computer.

2.When the Windows 98 Startup menu is displayed, choose Start computer with CD-ROM support, and then press ENTER.

3.If CD-ROM support is provided by the generic drivers on the Startup or Boot disk, one of the following lines is displayed

Drive X: = Driver MSCD001

Drive X: = Driver OEMCD001

where X is the drive letter that is assigned to your CD-ROM drive.

NOTE: If the CD-ROM drive is not available after you boot from the Windows 98 Startup disk or Boot disk, you need to install the CD-ROM drivers included with your CD-ROM drive. For information about how to obtain and install the most current driver for your CD-ROM drive, view the documentation included with your device, or contact your hardware manufacturer.

4.Place the Windows 98 CD-ROM in the CD-ROM drive, type the following command at the command prompt, and then press ENTER X:\setup

where X is the drive letter assigned to your CD-ROM drive.

5.The following message is displayed:

Please wait while the Setup initializes. Setup is now going to perform a routine check on your system. To continue press Enter.

Press ENTER, and then follow the instructions on the screen to complete Setup.

Once '98 is up & running (with correct drivers etc installed) place your XP disk into your drive, let it "Autorun" and follow the instructions to create a dual boot system.

Its easy. - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/usin ... iboot.mspx this link may be of some use to you.

Good luck.

[Gunny04]

Unfortunatly I did all this, ended up with 98 over XP and well formatted and just got my PC Done and fixed, I only have an OLD OLD OLD!!!!!!!!!! Windows XP pro disk and the serial wont work for it, so I cant do this I take? hmmmm Only my C drive is detected not the one where I'd like 98SE ah hell, this is confusing! Cheers, Gunny

[Gunny04]

Back to one hard drive, fried the slave (well kinda) The partition 1 (114 gigs) got deleted by my stupidity, so I am out 50 bucks I take? oh well, Was worth the try I guess, Cheers, Gunny (if their is a way to recover the partition I will try)

EDIT: What can yah do with 7 megs? Bout whats left on it (partion 1)

[Gary R.]

And I thought I had a hard time tonight after re-formating and re-installing XP-Pro on "F" drive.  Shoot, my problem was small, like getting XP to recognize my VGA Control driver.  That's small taters compared to what Gunny is attempting.  You are a braver man than me guns, I salute you.

[KDSM]

I didnt read through all the above posts so i apologize if i repeat someone elses suggestions.

try this
make sure the slave drives jumpers a set to "SLAVE"
or "CS" which means cable select.
then see if the drive is detected.
also on boot up is the bios detecting the drive?

[Gunny04]

I managed to do it, but I cant get 98SE Too detect all the right drivers and it wont load em up and a certain Vnetbios.vxd file is missing tells me at startup, I just installed 98SE with my main XP hard drive unplugged and presto! as for my deleted partition thanks to ramos and XP Admin tools I am saved! 2 partitions on my Slave drive, a 9 gig Fat32 for 98SE and a 104 gig NTSF for my FS and other stuff! Cheers, Gunny (And I am not brave just a stupid fool who screws everything up to eventually get it to work, no matter what the consequence, I fried a comp and my mother to this day will not live it down! and it was 2 or 3 years ago!)

[KDSM]

Is it even possible to boot from a slave drive? if so thats a new one on me.

glad to hear you got it working

[Gunny04]

Ah yes it is, go into Bios and switch wich hard drive it goes to for OS first.... and BAM works..... Cheers, Gunny

[KDSM]

Ah yes it is, go into Bios and switch wich hard drive it goes to for OS first.... and BAM works..... Cheers, Gunny

ahh bios, yes that makes sense. never was very good at creative problem solving.

[Gunny04]

I do whatever I think will logically work.... Hence I have wired up a few things (Stereos computers etc) Cheers, Gunny and I am only 15.... I think one of these days a project might go bad and zap me..... cheers, Gunny

EDIT: I do somethings, a normal Computer enthusiast would prolly kill me for hehe

[congo]

You can also use the winXP install disk to partition the drive, it's much faster than using '98.

Just start installing WinXP from the disc and watch the prompts for the partitoning options, partition and format C: drive, then Win XP will load on C: drive and you can format the rest of the partitions within windows.

If you plan on installing Win'98 first, interupt the XP install if you want, (shut off the power then).

Then you can then do a quick format on all the partitons and Voila!, you are ready to install windows '98. You'll need to use FAT partitions for Win'98 to see them I think.

You can also slave the hdd to a WinXP rig and use :

Start/programs/administrative tools/computer management/disk management

There is a wonderful partitoning utility there.