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AMD SD 64 4000+   Vs.  AMD 64 X2 4400+

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:12 pm
by Jimbo
Well im looking at these two at the moment, is dual core worth it for an extra

Re: AMD SD 64 4000+

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:24 pm
by congo
I picked the 4000+ because:

1. I think it's adequate and more suited for most current apps

2. the dual cores will drop in price or there will be something better by the time dual core is supported by most apps, (if it ever gets supported)

3. I don't want to encourage or support such expensive trends towards ultra high end equipment for mainstream apps

4. I think dual cores are faddish, like the SLI debacle, and cause all sorts of complications the average user doesn't want or need.

Re: AMD SD 64 4000+   Vs.  AMD 64 X2 4400+

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:39 pm
by ctjoyce
I voted for the X2 not because of a fad or anything I just figured it was logical. If your like me and multi task like crazy then your going to want the x2 as thats going to be the best platform to do so. However if this is a gameing only PC then the single core all the way, as the x2 woulnt really put out all that much more preformance.

Cheers
Cameron

Re: AMD SD 64 4000+

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:05 am
by Delta_
Lets put it this way, all new games coming out now use dual processors. So FS10 will use it, and anything coming out.  I would personally wait a year though just til prices drop. ;)

Re: AMD SD 64 4000+

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:53 am
by ctjoyce
Actually I thought that the new games were more concerned with SLi / Crossfire then they were duel core processers, however I wouldnt be supprised if FSX requires duel cores.

Cheers
Cameron

Re: AMD SD 64 4000+

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:15 pm
by congo
Microsoft aren't suicidal enough to "require" such high end hardware in this type of major selling, popular mainstream simulation.

They simply won't get the sales if they do. If they are smart, they will clean up the code, use a new game engine or do something to fix the Sim. They really need to do that because the game runs terribly as it is. I believe that MSFS is a very good upgrade of a very old simulation, at least by present standards. It needs a serious re-write, not so that it requires X2's by default, but so that it runs smooth on a midrange PC.

(I know, I know, up against the wall Congo, blindfold? No, I'll face the firing squad and look you all in the eye.....)

There is something basically wrong with FS9, it shouldn't bog a PC down like it does. I hope that MS gets it sorted before they add any more resource hungry features or any new version is going to crawl, not fly.

The amount of "man hours and money" that has gone into getting FS9 to run smoothly, may rival Howard Hughes effort to fly his famous Hercules. Think about it.

Plenty of firms are offering flight sim products, and while none offer the package that FS9 delivers, People will buy software that is fun and easy to use, particulary if there is "immersion", or what MS refers to as "As Real As It Gets". You don't get realism with choppy FPS.

Re: AMD SD 64 4000+   Vs.  AMD 64 X2 4400+

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:07 pm
by Delta_
Dual core is simply a mode that the game takes, the game simply utilises the 2 processors.  All new games coming out now use it.  

Making a game only dual processor would definetly be suicide. ;)

Re: AMD SD 64 4000+

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:40 pm
by Jimbo
Well as dual core games are on the increase, and the fact that it would only cost me an extra