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Joysticks

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:53 am
by town
An open question here - all opinions invited:
Who makes the best joystick and what is the opinion on force feedback?

Re: Joysticks

PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:58 am
by Dan
Hi Townie!

As far as my experience allows me to comment, Saitek make the best affordable joysticks. Probably the best one to get now is there X52, especially since its reveision!

I have never used FF, so I can't say there.

Of course if one wants to burn ones wallet then theres always CH...  ;)

Re: Joysticks

PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 5:10 pm
by Katahu
I have the Saitek X45 and it comes with a variety of function. Costed me about $50 USD.

Re: Joysticks

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:35 am
by congo
FFB is a novelty item. It doesn't reflect real life stick feel either, though there are some similarities.

I would get a stick that is comfortable, a past experience with a saitek stick is remembered with disdain because of the lack of comfort and pain associated with it's use. I think they are better now, but beware, any sharp edges will hurt.

The stick MUST have a rudder axis in the form of a twist grip on the stick, if you find a stick with extra axis, they are a bonus, you can assign a proportional airbrake or prop pitch control for instance.

Re: Joysticks

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:43 pm
by Antei
I bought my X-45 for 99euros :P

Re: Joysticks

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:59 pm
by Katahu
Jesus, translate that to USD. :o

Re: Joysticks

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:26 am
by town
I equate Euros and US Dollers as about the same.  ;D

Have any of you had any experience with Logitec.
I have a Logitec Wingman II force feedback, but one of the axis (rudder) seems to have gone a bit ropey. The stick itself is not to bad, but if the problem is inherent I'll go for a different type next time around. Oh its also less than a year old.

Re: Joysticks

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:58 am
by congo
Get in the Logitech line with the others.

They have  been notorious in the past is all I know. The rudder problem is typical.

Re: Joysticks

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:32 pm
by Fozzer
Logitech Wingman Force 3D.....

Re: Joysticks

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:28 am
by congo
There are plenty of rudder-on-stick joysticks that are non-FFB. Centering springs can also be removed if desired.

Fozzer, don't throw out the Sidewinder please, I may need some parts one day   ;)

A guy in my squad just paid $300 Oz for one !

Re: Joysticks

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:04 am
by Ivan
Going to get a Saitek when i have the money... Logitech centering is plain awful

Re: Joysticks

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:55 am
by C
Don't get force feedback IMO. IL2/FB/Pacific fighters is the only sim I've used which simulates anything like the stick forces I'm used to...

Saitek X-45 and X-52 are good buys - I prefer the X-45 as the rudder is a bar on the front of the throttle rather than a twist grip, which is slightly more realistic...

Re: Joysticks

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:49 pm
by Fozzer
I would have thought that the X-45 and X-52 would be more suitable for helicopters...seperate cyclic and collective controls...?

http://www.saitek.com/uk/prod/pcgc.asp

The old Spit only has one 'stick, between the legs.. ;)... ;D...!
(Exactly where your "joystick" should be...)... ;)...!
LOL...!

My old Wingman performs admirably.even as a replacement for my '152's yoke... 8)...!

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/productlist

Paul... ;D...!

Re: Joysticks

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:49 pm
by Katahu
The X-45 is really neat IMO.

I use to have a Logitech Wingman as well. You know, the regular kind that didn't have a rudder.

Quite pathetic as the cheap plastic tends to make some frightening cracking noise as I moved it around. Finally dumped it for the X-45.

I always wanted a control setup that had the throttle as a separate unit, but I never had the money. But now I do have money in the bank and the controls of my dreams. ;D

Re: Joysticks

PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:05 am
by town
Well chaps, i've been down to the computer shop and I think I'm going to get the Saitek X52, it got lots of buttons and lights on it and it seems Saitek are a "trusted Manufacturer" ;)